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I'm leaving, man. You got this one, bro. Yo, what is up, people of the internet? Welcome back to another episode of the Waveform Podcast. We're your hosts. I'm Marquez. I'm Andrew. I'm David. Over at the producer table, Ellis is back, Adam is back.

Were they ever not here? I don't know, but they're back, so it's good to see them. We exist in all realms. And we got a good one for you this week, so we're going to talk about the Cybertruck announcing that it's ending production next year, Adobe Max, and a closer look at Google Smart Glasses, but I do want to ask, has anybody thought of a, did they even test this for this week?

I have one. Okay. If that's okay. You guys always have, I feel like it's been a while since I had one, because, I don't know, the things that I use are heavily tested. Things just always work for you. Well, they're heavily tested before they're put in my hands, I think. No, I would argue it's just, you need a note. Everyone needs to Google notes for this because they happen, and if you don't write it down immediately, you forget, because so much, so much happens in your day where things go right and wrong that it's very easy to go over that.

That's why I started this segment. Yeah. This is one that's been bugging me for a long time, and then I just crashed out about it at my desk. Bugging, crashed, uh, holy puns. Like, I think at the desk when we were doing the MacBook Pro script the other day, um, so I'm gonna paint you guys a picture.

Yeah. What are you gonna use to do it? Um, words. Oh, lyrical genius. Okay. You have two Google accounts. Let's say one of them is your Gmail, one of them is your at MKBHD. Sure, sure. Cool.

Right. So, on my computer, in the same browser, they're both logged in, but I always log in to my, my work at MKBHD. I'll just call it work account. Yeah. Work account first, Gmail second, that way I have my calendar events, my inboxes of both all of the time.

Yeah. when I type in drive.google.com, the drive that comes out is my work drive, right? My at MKBHD drive. Mm-hmm. In the drop down select menu where you pick your accounts, it actually has a tab that says default next to my at MKBHD.

If I go to this, oh, right? It says default next to it, right? It picks one to say default. I'm logged into this right now. Yep. But I'm logged into both. You can see that. Okay. how come every single time Marquez shares a Google Doc with me and I click it, it's in my Gmail account and I have to then switch to my work account so I can edit anything because we're inside of the organization?

Yeah. Hmm. Which browser are you using? Firefox. I was going to say, yeah. It's not that. I mean, it could be that and that's annoying and should be fixed. One of the reasons that I liked Arc and now that I use Dia and I we could talk for a long time about this.

They added a quick disclaimer, we took an ad from Firefox last week. I think it's on this week's as well. Oh, nice. But I'm saying this is potentially a Firefox issue. Yeah, I don't know. Well, no, I mean, I think this is a Google issue. Okay. That's my guess initially. I have this issue on every browser but the fix for me was the spaces feature in Arc and Dia where you literally like are signed into different Google accounts per space.

so I only sign into one Google account per space so that if I'm in that space and I open a link it always only opens that workspace. But when you open a link from outside of your browser, which space does it pick? Whichever space that I'm currently in. Okay, so this would potentially still mess up if you happen to leave your browser in your Gmail space, went to Slack.

But there's a new feature that they used to have in Arc that they just put into you called air traffic control where you can set certain websites that you click on will open in certain spaces. Okay. So it's helpful. That would work really well here. I almost never open a doc in my Gmail.

It's very few. Those are like maybe some family things here and there. But I open a doc in our work every single day it feels like. So not to, you know, but. Well, so this has been an issue for so long and I've just been like, it's annoying. It's annoying. But when I noticed, I've never noticed the default tag, which then made me realize, you know, Google, how are you still messing this up?

It feels like you're taunting. It says default. It's specifically telling you it's the default. The only thing default means is that's what I default to and it's not defaulting to it. Yeah, fair. Wait, can we talk about the browser wars for 15 seconds? Sure, yeah. It's not even the browser wars.

But a couple months ago, I remember we had this thing where there were, it seemed like there were browser wars, right? Because Chrome added their AI sidebar and Bing had an AI sidebar. OpenAI made a. Yeah, all these browsers, like OpenAI made a browser, ChatGPT Atlas.

Yeah. And then they stopped making it. One of the biggest, most talked about, rapidly growing companies made a browser. So they think that there's like land to grab here. Right. And so Chrome, obviously Edge and then there's Safari and then all the others and then there were things like Arc happening. Yeah. So it felt like vibrant and interesting that there's a bunch of different browsers.

For sure. Now fast forward to now. The landscape is Arc just died. Yeah, Arc just died. They just like stopped really supporting it. They sunset it, right? Yeah. So there were all these enthusiasts who were trying a bunch of different browsers who landed on Arc because it felt like the best one.

Yeah. who are now free agents who are like going around to see what's the closest thing to Arc. What we're all learning is Arc was really, really, really good and loved for a reason. Yeah. And now that it's gone, everyone is trying to make Arc again.

Yes. So I've gotten, I don't know if you've been on like threads or Twitter or whatever where I keep seeing like every couple hours a new browser to try because they've adopted 85% of Arc. Yeah. and then the last 15% will drive me crazy and I'll move to another one.

So like I was on Dia for a bit which is a bunch of Arc but not all of it. Yeah. It's kind of slow too. And then, yeah, there's like, you know, Zen seemed to be the one for a while that a lot of people tried. Firefox based. Exactly. Gecko. So now I'm like, there's this one called Ardia which is cleverly named.

It's literally just called Arc and Dia. Yeah. It's much faster. It lets you switch engines between WebKit and Chromium. Whoa. It's pretty cool. Whoa. So I'm on Chromium most of the time but certain websites I can decide to open in WebKit. Really? Yeah, it's interesting. That's very interesting.

Right? So like, but it's missing 10% of Arc so like, then another browser will pop up and it'll be some other random weird name and then I'll try it and there's, yeah, it just keeps going. There's a bunch of those. There's a lot happening but the fact that Vibe Coding has gotten so good, I get pitches for a new browser like every single day.

In the end. And I cannot keep up. It's the two things I get pitches for, browsers and camera apps. Every day. There's a new one and I'm like, I love that everyone's trying crazy new stuff and everyone's trying their pitch at it but if you like, go to the Arc browser subreddit, it's, there's two types of content.

There's people just being like, I hate you browser company, I hope you like, like, which is like, calm down guys. It's a browser. Take one step back. It's a browser. And then two, it's someone pitching their new browser that they said, I loved Arc so I made Arc again.

Mm-hmm. Which, you gotta give it to the browser company that like, everything is just trying to be Arc now. It's wild. Safari just added vertical tabs. It's such, it's one of the biggest fumbles I've seen in software in like the last couple years.

For sure. For a while, it was like, you either use Chrome or Safari or whatever's your default and there isn't really, no one's changing browsers. Yeah. And then this actually, genuinely good idea came along and they built it really well Yeah. and it worked and people were excited for it and people left their like, big default Chrome and WebKit browsers to use Arc.

Yeah. It's like, wow, this is actually kind of interesting, a new player. I'm people. Yeah. I remember, we're all people, my guy. I remember a couple months in when there was, I guess it was like, invite codes that you needed for it and we like, got our invite codes here and it was like, a big deal, like four of us switched to Arc at the same time.

We stopped working for like 40 minutes. Yeah, it was like, I'm setting up my spaces and pinning tabs right now. It was crazy. Invite codes are so much fun. That's a good sign of like an enthusiast brand of like, people really want this and it's, they're willing to deal with this. Drives demand for sure. Yeah. I think that there was a, I could see what they were trying to do with DX.

They were trying to like, at the time, it seems like, oh, this AI agents thing might actually be a big deal and this might change the way we do computing. But it's a, it was a huge bet on the fact that that's how people wanted to use browsers and I just don't think that that ended up being true.

And, every single one of these agents that you, you pay a subscription to just has a plug, like a Chrome, Chrome plugin. So like you, and it does the exact same thing where it pulls out the little sidebar. It has context about you. You're already, you're already living in Cloud or ChatGPT or Gemini in their own individual apps anyway.

There was really no reason to like make a full separate browser just to have that. Yeah. All these agents kind of like leapfrogged needing a browser. Yeah. They just do it all in the cloud. And I think if they were going to take that leap and that risk, they just should have kept working on Ark but just tried Dia as an experiment for a while instead of going full send.

It felt like the button meme where it was like one button is continue on the path with what all our fans helped us build that they love so dearly or just like trendy AI plus money and he didn't even wipe the sweat off. He just took a mallet and slammed the AI button. There's the, I think it's a similar meme but it's like the car like swerving on the exit off the highway.

Like the one sign just says keep working on Ark and then the exit sign says like pivot completely to an AI based browser and they just hit that exit super hard. Yeah. Yeah, I guess maybe they didn't have enough bandwidth or something to like work on both at the same time and they made their choice but I do constantly wish that they had just kept doing Ark.

So there was all, obviously we had the news stories about how Google was paying to be the default and I guess the exclusive default search engine in Safari. 20 billion a year. A lot of money. A lot of money. And the, what turned out to be illegal about it was that they didn't give you other options to set as your default so you still are getting, Google's still paying to be the default in Safari but you can switch it to DuckDuckGo.

So Google does know how to be the default of things. Yeah, they do. I just have to pay them 20 billion dollars or they have to pay, I don't know. Yeah, but that story makes me wonder about like the, the business, the business of being a browser company I guess.

Like how, maybe they just don't make much or any money at all. Like there is also the story Firefox. Yeah. Google pays to be the default search engine in Firefox and that was like 80% of Mozilla's revenue. For sure. Now remember Mozilla is a foundation.

True. But, there's that. they are taking the money from Google. For sure. So is it that there isn't much money in browsers at all until you get to, is it like Shark Tank where you're just like you make no money, no money, no money, and then you get acquired and you're like, all right, we've been burning money for all this time but now we finally The reason there have not been browser wars since Netscape is that there's not really a path to revenue to make a browser.

Right? And so I think the only reason we're seeing browser wars now is because people are just vibe coding them and throwing them up online. People don't care about turning it into a giant multi-billion dollar revenue stream. I think most people just also don't care about browsers that much. Like, the reason Internet Explorer or Edge, sorry, has so many is because it's the default on Microsoft.

The reason Safari has so many is because it's the default on macOS. Chrome is actually kind of impressive how many people are on Chrome because they aren't the default of either of those things. it's really hard to get into that space which is probably why they pivoted to AI because everyone is. And I don't know, whenever I see the like, this is the brand new way to think about something we've had forever, some of those are going to stick, most of those are going to fail because it's like, it's, who are the people who are like, this is the iPhone for blankets.

The iPhone took forever to make. Like, we got, it's, everyone wants to be the default thing. That's what I was going to say is like, when you reinvent the wheel, like, Apple reinvents the wheel a lot and a lot of the times it hits. This whole sidebar thing on the Duo, they tried to reinvent it.

They were like, we're, we're thinking about foldables from first principles and I'm like, I disagree. Like, when you look at this versus a Fold 8 and having like, all that extra real estate from, like, it just, it drives me crazy. It drives me crazy. Okay, wait. Believe it or not. Before, before, really quick.

Okay. Sorry, I have to do one more today and test this really fast. Instagram, I'm done. on the iPhone, on the freaking BN. On the iPhone Duo, they made a huge deal about how they meta-optimized all its apps for the iPhone Duo. They optimized the inner display for Instagram.

Nothing else. the exterior display. Still, when I'm like, DMing people, all of the extra, like, controls are floating over the send button, are floating over the messages. Like, you can't use the app on the exterior display half the time. Yeah, because you want to watch long form videos on the inside now.

Ay, yi, yi, yi, yi. I'm only slightly salty. Like, I do have, obviously, there's like, clips of me talking about the app optimization situation on the Duo and people going like, wow, Marquez, you're being way too hard. This is an app developer thing. They'll fix it in no time. And then a bunch of apps got updated for Duo and they're like, see, Marquez, don't you feel dumb now for talking about it?

No. Look at the apps. Look at them. They're only halfway done. Like, they have a lot of work to go. I think that an engineer at Meta just said, hey, Claude, can you optimize this for iPhone Duo? And didn't even look at it. They're a lean team, David. They're a lean team. Chill out. Instagram Meta's behavioral scientists calculated that if they made it look like you'll stay in the app for 17 extra seconds per second.

It's harder to get to the point and you're trying to cause I can't hit an ad per day, David. You know, that's surprisingly not a crazy conspiracy theory. I will say, Threads is very well optimized for the iPhone Duo. And if the Threads team can do it, which is probably a smaller team than the Instagram team, the Instagram team needs to freaking figure this out.

Anyway, I'm done. I'm cutting you off. Cutting me off. Believe it or not, listeners, none of this was on our outline. Hey, you know what else is getting cut off? Hey, no one would have guessed it. The Cybertruck. We, last week, we got a tweet from Elon that said, Tesla will be winding down production of the Cybertruck at Gigafactory Texas around the middle of next year to make room for increased Cybertruck production.

I mean, we've seen quite a few things get cut off from Tesla recently. S and X both got deleted. That was to make room for the robots, for the Optimus. For the Optimus robots. That was the reason that was given. That was the reason that was given. That was also on Elon. Well, because they're going to make a billion of those, right?

Of course. And you need room. Yeah. I mean, it seems like the company is pivoting to just everything is autonomous that they make now at this point. Sure. I mean, they make the three and the Y because they are high volume. For sure. This doesn't bode well for the Roadster. I'm just saying.

That's a really good point. If you're, Mark in a vein staying in Marquez's head to say that was because if you're saying they're getting rid of these things that you drive to make room for the autonomous things, I'm just saying. Well, you fly the roads. You fly it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

But yeah, so sorry. We S and X because they're expensive and not worth continuing to produce. Roadster, roadster, roadster, roadster. The Cybertruck's always been kind of a weird product, which is, I think, so weird right now because it was supposed to be the high volume.

Like, when they originally announced it, it was the, we can stamp it so easily because of this design. Fleet trucks everywhere are going to be it. We are going to be able to make- SpaceX bought a ton of them. Yeah, it was supposed to be a fleet vehicle that Tesla expected to sell millions of because it's the easily made truck.

Yeah. Like, there was supposed to be the fleet version at like $35,000. You can't buy one right now for under $90,000. They're not cheap. They're, they're very polarizing still. Yeah. I am not surprised by this and at the same time I am kind of surprised by this.

The cheapest dual motor one. When I looked on their website, it was weird because there are some options but they're grayed out and I can't tell if they're graying it out because they don't want you to order them anymore because he did also say the order rate far exceeds our production rate. We'll make as many as we can before shutting down in eight-ish months but we'll have to return deposits for a lot of people.

You can still order. Sure. You can still order the like $100,000 one. The Cyber Beast, yeah. I'm wondering if they just have plenty of stock of Cyber Beast so that you can or like the more expensive ones so those are ones they can come out and all these orders they're going to cancel are people who have deposits.

I don't know for cheaper ones that they thought was coming eventually. I would also bet that the lower end ones the margins are even slimmer and the parts and the pricing and like global logistics and stuff have probably just gone up in price and I bet the margins are so low or even they're losing money on them so they can only sell them more expensive.

Well these companies usually have like a couple different specs plan. They typically spin up the highest margin highest priced spec earliest to make money to make the other ones so it wouldn't shock me if the others are on the chopping block first because they are too low margin to keep going with.

I don't know how much to believe about the order rate far exceeding production rate because I've seen that production rate is plentiful and that they kind of sit for a while. So yeah not sure about that. That's what Tesla subreddit says as well but my guess is the production like I bet there are still plenty of orders out there for models they thought were going to come out that are not.

coming out. Maybe. Probably because of things like profit margins and whatever. Also there's less than two months to see if you have to shave your head so. Yeah I'm super nervous. TikTok. Sweating. TikTok Elon. TikTok. They're making A.

I mean she doesn't have to do anything. Logistically this tweet should scare me right because they're making room for increased cyber cab production which means they're pretty sure they're going to make a bunch of them before the end. And sell them to people probably. Next year. But they have to do it before the end of this year. Yeah. Yeah but this I feel like this actually solidifies yours because they're not winding.

They're not cutting it off till 2027. The middle of next year. All right I'm probably good. I think we know that you've been good. Close one. I did just get a haircut. Yes. I saw somebody somebody used this I think and quoted like I think Marquez's hair is safe. And it was from a pretty Tesla Stan account.

Yeah. And someone just wrote it will fall out with old age eventually. And then I will win the bet. When Marquez turns 50. We got it right where we want it. I will win the bet. I hope you're not bald by 50 my guy. That's what they're hoping. They're hoping I'll be bald ASAP. Is a Cybertruck with the history that we now have behind us iconic?

Is the question answered? I think it was always iconic. It's definitely iconic. If it's the icon you want to be that's another story. People that got mad at Marquez for the headline for that video don't know what the word iconic means. The PT Cruiser was the analogy in the video.

Yeah. Iconic. Yeah. Iconic and infamous sort of are the same. They overlap. They overlap. In the Venn diagram they overlap. Famous, infamous, iconic. Yeah. Iconic is the middle part of the Venn diagram. For better or for worse.

I mean I think one of the maybe not even a hot take but actually this is probably a cold take. If Tesla had made a regular shaped SUV with all of their tech. Like if they kept like Model YL made it bigger and made it the size of SUVs a lot of Americans want to buy.

Model X? Model X had the doors and the stuff that was a little complicated. If they just made like a good simple SUV type thing. Like the gravity. EV9. Yeah. But they would make it cheaper. Like the gravity is a hundred grand. Like if you could make Tesla tech SUV not super polarizing looks.

Soccer van. That would have sold a lot. Yeah. People would have wanted that everywhere. The reason Model Y is the most popular vehicle on earth is because it's a good deal and people want that size and shape of a car. Totally. But they instead made a trapezoid that had like all the connotations and all of the like association very strongly with not just Tesla but like the Elon brand.

And also to a group of people that are truck lovers who are like the least likely to switch to not only an EV but an EV that looks different. We should also mention that it came out exactly when Elon was gutting the government. True.

So like it became associated with what Elon was doing at that period of time because that's when they started shipping. And you don't see you see the you see the bumper sticker of like I bought this before Elon went crazy. You can't put that on a Cybertruck. You can't put it on a Cybertruck. I've seen them.

But hundreds of thousands of people buy Model 3s and Model Ys all the time and they don't have to put the bumper sticker on because that's like people understand that it's a good car still. Yeah. So the Cybertruck is just so associated. Yeah. So yeah it's if they'd made like an SUV like a three row like EV9 size thing it would have done.

They would have. I think they would have mass produced that and they would have a lot of success. Yeah. But they didn't do it. We had a white Chevy van when I was a kid and that thing was iconic. Little minivan. Lucid you brought up the gravity. They're trying to make a lower priced SUV. Really? Like so if they sell enough gravities and they make enough money.

A low priced Lucid is kind of crazy. Well that's the idea is they want to actually make a mass produced thing. I've seen more gravities than airs because people want gravity shaped vehicles more than they want big sedans. So ugly. I know. But if they make that small SUV it had like a codename I forgot what it was but that would actually potentially be their first like popular car.

Totally. I think. Totally. And that's the same space Tesla could make. It's the same as Porsche right? With the. Yeah their whole story. Yeah. Yeah. Porsche lives to be a sports car company. Oh and Lamborghini as well. Yeah. And they they were on the brink of bankruptcy until they came out with the Macan and the Cayenne which are their family sized small SUVs.

Yeah. And they sell more of those things than the rest of the sports cars combined and they fund the development of the sports cars. I see more of those than any other Porsche. By far. Same with Lamborghini. I see the Lamborghini. The Urus really? The Urus outsells every other Lamborghini. I see Urus all over New York City.

David you don't even know how right you are because both the Urus and the Cayenne are the same car. They're both owned by VW and they're based on the same platform. Share a lot of parts. It was a trick so nice they did it twice. And the Audi RSQ8. Fun fact. Yeah.

Do you want to guess how many they sold in total? Not per year. Just like how many Cybertrucks were bought by people? Two million. 70,000. They probably sold 150,000. Should I have made this a trivia question? Yeah. It is now.

It is trivia right now. Oh my god. Surprise me. It's like the NBA cut. Okay David you said 70,000. Marquez you said 150,000. 150,000. I'm realizing I'm way too high. You said. I said two million. You said two million. Do you want to change your answer? The music's still playing. Delta? They wanted to do 500 a year.

They didn't get anywhere near that. They had 100,000. I'll say 600,000. Okay. David wins. It was between 70,000 and 73,000. Wow really? Yeah. That's it? They never hit 100? No. They never even got close. Wow. Damn. Wow. Talk about guessing. You really need that trivia point huh?

Free point for David. I really need it. I really need it. I'm so sad I didn't get tripped. Speaking of that. Ring ring mother f***er. That was the plan segue. We took a break for that? I guess I can't say that.

I love that. Am I allowed to? It's just going to get bleeped. Alright. I love it. Ring ring drone robot. I was going to say. I want to cover this really fast because Amazon just announced it but there's a reason I want to cover it. They announced their ring robotics which are robots associated with the ring brand inside of Amazon which are like home security, home smart, whatever.

Surveillance. Surveillance. It's a new category of autonomous mobile security devices that patrol, investigate, and respond automatically. One of these products is the ring drone which we talked about years ago. Now, you can't pre-order it but you can get notified for its availability.

It's $250 and it's this small little drone that docks in your house, can have custom flight paths and fly around your house to make sure no intruders are there or check if you left a stove on or see if there's any issues when you're away. But the thing I want to talk about is the Ring Rover Cam because we had not heard about this before.

It's a purpose-built security robot for businesses that patrols autonomously, investigates the services, and streams up to 4K video. $1,000. Could you guys please click this link and see what it looks like? Oh, buddy. Rover Cam. What did they do to our boy?

Conscripted him. They took Astro Bot, discontinued it, and made him a narc. Buddy. Oh, my God. They literally, they slapped the police thing in the back of his... He has a siren. Buddy.

Wee-woo. Wee-woo. Wee-woo. It's me. Wee-woo. Is this like, it's like this scene in the Spongebob Squarepants movie where like everyone in Bikini Bottom has the chum helmets on and they be... You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hold on.

I just accidentally clicked the video they have under the listing and it starts with like, it's a restaurant and two guys throw a brick through a glass door, open it, and then Astro Bot starts blinking a red light and then they run away out the sewer. Yeah, we're scared of Astro Bot.

Okay, this is funny. Okay. Guys, he's too cute. I watched both these videos. These are both, so they have this Astro Bot rolling around with a little light on it and they also have the Rhone... The drone. The drone. Drone. Ring drone. Ring drone. Ring drone.

Rhone. Both of the videos, they involve like, a thief who walks in, successfully breaks and enters, then sees the product and then goes, oh, never mind, and leaves. Yeah, which is like... I just, I don't think that's how that usually works. No. Like, if you have a security camera on the outside of your house, that's theoretically just as effective because they see that they are being watched and they decide not to do it.

That never, I mean, that sometimes deters thieves, but also when the thief has decided they're gonna break and enter and then they get inside and there's a little dinky drone hovering in front of them, they swat that shit out of the air and they keep robbing you. So I don't really think this is gonna work.

It's like, I guess you would get alerted, but I think they're banking on like, oh no, it saw my face. Put a mask on. Like, they can't see through a mask. You're gonna, I'm gonna put a mask on. I'm gonna roundhouse kick. Like, I don't know about the mentality of like, I'm sure there is quite a bit of research into the fact that you think, like, it's a TSA effect.

Like, you think you're being watched so you're like, never mind, I won't do it. Yeah. But it's just funny that the ad is like, somebody breaks and enters, has no mask on, walks in, and then goes, ah, drone, never mind. I'm gonna leave now. That's, what? One time when my parents were out of town, someone like, got into their house and they got the thing on their, the notification on their phone and they opened the camera and my mom, for some reason, thought she just, you know, she turned on the speaker and was like, hey, you know I can see you and the guy, maskless, just goes, whoa,

that's crazy. He doesn't stop. Yeah. That's exactly what you'd expect. That's exactly what would happen with this. Yeah, I saw the camera, bro. Yeah. I also just want to know, like, Americans are so paranoid. You really? Yeah.

Why are people so terrified? Like, okay, have you guys seen the, the documentary Bullying for Columbine? I have not. No. Yeah, in many years. It's very good, but there's a section in it where he goes around Canada and he just asks random Canadians, do you lock your doors? And they're all like, no, why would I lock my doors?

Yeah. And like, we are terrified of each other. That is interesting. It depends a lot on where you live because I've had this too. When I grew up, I, I always locked my door. I was just like a habit of like, and this is a part of New Jersey I grew up in. Yeah. I moved to a different part of New Jersey a couple years ago and I remember like leaving the house, driving away, going for walks, going for runs or whatever, going to go work out at the field at the high school a couple blocks away and walking past people's houses, not only were the doors unlocked, but they're open.

Yeah, it's a vent. And people just have like the screen door there. Some people are home, some people aren't, some people it's just a dog and they just leave their doors open. Yeah. It's like, I couldn't imagine leaving my door open like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's just like where you live basically. But it's also over time we've become a much more anxious country.

In general, yeah. In general. And I feel like stuff like this kind of feeds that. The idea that you need more home security, you need all of these monitoring systems. This feels, like this does not help you be more secure any more than just a regular alarm that detects a door or window being open because just because you see the person, now I have to call the police or whatever, but if it's a security system, it just calls it immediately.

So the people breaking in are like, I have X amount of time whether a little guy on two wheels sees me or not, I will be out of here by the time any of this happens. It's not like, it's not going to slap them in cuffs and hold them until the police comes here. It's just going to be like, please stop.

Yeah. And like, even the way that they talk about this, Ring Robotics is a new category of autonomous mobile security devices that patrol, investigate and respond. Like, the word patrol, I do not want in my house. And I, I don't know. if you are a person who is interested in this like, in this drone robot, please, please like leave a comment or email me because I just don't know who would want this.

Yeah, I'm trying to put myself in the shoes. I'm reading the description. It has an eight minute flight time. You can map, you carry it around the house. It maps around your house like a Roomba robot. So then it can potentially, this is the, I think maybe the value proposition is you have three doors on the first floor and instead of buying one camera for each door, you buy one drone and it can detect where the noise came from and it serves as your security camera for all three doors.

Yeah. Like, I have a doorbell camera, like that's, that covers one of the doors. Yeah. If I have a back door, maybe I don't want to buy another security camera, so maybe I'm interested in the drone thing. Maybe that's the mentality. But this is $250. Yeah. And it has an eight minute flight time and once the eight minutes is up, it just flies safely back to the dock.

One thing that I could see potentially useful about this is like not the security aspect, but like, I don't know, if I thought, oh, did I leave this in my bedroom? Oh, okay. I was gonna say, did I leave the coffee pot on? Did I leave the oven on? Oh, yeah, yeah. Anything like that, yeah. Did I check that? Being able to just like check on things in your home and you don't have to have a ton of cameras mounted around your house and as long as you leave your doors open, you can fly into different rooms and just check.

I didn't even think of that. if you close the door, it doesn't work. Yeah, it doesn't work. I break in the house, I hear the drone and I just close the door and then it's like, it can't see the room I broke into. Yeah, yeah. And then I wait eight minutes and no one has to charge it and now I ransack the house. You just close the door. My theory for this is their target customer isn't regular people.

I think they need to sell it as if it's for regular people because that's where all the money is, but like, this is a good idea for like businesses. For sure. If I have a small business, if I'm a, the new building, like if I have a place where I need security, where do I have a gate?

One, I worry about that though because industrial versus, like the scale of an industrial place versus, it's like when you buy a Roomba robot, it's like, it's ready for like up to 3,000 square feet and then you put it in an office building and it's like, oh no, I can't. Yeah, but you know how many Roombas office buildings buy? It's so much easier to just have a cleaning, like, Astro Bot could cleaning crew come in.

Our office right now is 7,000 square feet. Yeah. Astro Bot could only cover a third of it. Really? Yep. It was, it would not let me map out anything bigger than that. Astro Bot can cover a small bar. That's because Sam Allman needs all the RAM for himself and Astro Bot can't store that much map data.

I do think it's valid that maybe this, I mean, they have the one example which is a security camera but maybe this is like, did I leave the oven on? I would love that. Or did I? As like a personal camera that I can just fly around my apartment and check on things if I need to, like, that's helpful. Paranoia against yourself.

But the paranoia, yeah, I guess it's, yeah. But the whole like, oh, it's gonna, every night at a certain time or if it hears a weird noise it's gonna check on me and it's gonna send me an alarm. I'm just like, I don't wanna be, this is the equivalent of having like, the Nextdoor app or, what's the, yeah, is it Nextdoor? Nextdoor, yeah.

what is the app where people like, report random little crimes and stuff? I think Ring actually has their own version of it called Neighbors but the one that you're thinking of is called Citizen. Citizen. Yeah. Citizen, do you have, you know about Citizen? I've heard about this. It's literally like, people report like, I saw someone shady five feet away from me and then you get a notification on your phone.

It is just terrifying people into thinking that they're unsafe all the time. That seems, it's just a mass paranoia app. It's a mass paranoia app. Yeah, you think you're being more informed but you're just getting a bunch of false negatives all the time. Exactly. I just, I don't think most people are going to be robbed that often.

I don't know. I, I wonder what they make Astro Bot into after this one fails. Here's a question. Why isn't it humanoid shaped? Huh? Where's all the humanoid shaped robot lovers now? I'd be more scared of a humanoid robot if I broke into a house.

Bro, exactly. If I'm breaking into a house and I see a humanoid robot turn around and I'm like, you know what? I'm leaving, man. You got this one, bro. Unfolds. Dude ass Astro Bot just being like, hello. Yeah. I'm, I'm not running away. That's not doing the same thing.

I'm stealing the jewelry. If I were ever to rob a store, it would be because I saw an Astro Bot inside and went, this would be too funny. Yeah. The footage of like waist height of somebody just taking everything. Yeah. Anyway, they should have just marketed this to like businesses. They did.

I do think Rover Cam is like, it seems like it's marketing. Well, Rover Cam, I'm mostly talking about the surveillance drone. The drone. I think it's easier to map your house out for Amazon. Yeah. Eight minute, eight minute flight time means it's not covering a warehouse, bro.

Honestly, the most, it's not even the camera and the thing. It's the fact that everyone who sets these up are going to map their house in an app that Amazon is going to own. Yeah. And then the drone's never going to take off. It's going to take off one time and they're going to show it for like a month as like a gimmicky thing and then Amazon's going to be like, cool, I know exactly what your house is.

Yeah. Like, I don't, they're probably not using this data, but I still don't care. Like, there are two companies that I do not want to see the inside of my house. Can I guess? Can I guess? Yeah, go for it. meta. Yes. Google. No, it is meta and Amazon. Probably Amazon. Google, I'm like, yeah, they target, but like I already, I have, they know literally everything about me already.

And also, they sell, Senator, they sell ads. They sell ad placement and they also target your search results, right? I think that's a meta quote, actually. Yeah, that's a Zuck quote. Yeah, I know, that's a Zuck quote. I'm just saying like, but yeah, they know already.

Amazon literally, you know, targets people and lets them know they're pregnant before that they know that they're pregnant. That's convenient. Not Marquez. How devil's advocate can I be in one episode? So, yeah, I don't want Amazon to see the inside of my house.

Fair enough. I just love that they gave him a little, I guess meta also does. A little siren. A little siren is really funny. That's where it used to carry like a beer. Remember the old one? That's a singular cup holder. It had a single cup holder and it would be like, bring this cup to the couch.

And that's what it did. It was so bad at it, but it figured out a way to bring the cup to the couch. But somebody has to be at the refrigerator. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Instead of just being like, yo, can you bring me that drink? Be like, can you put it in Astro Bot so it can take 12 more minutes to get to me then? Yeah. Do people know that we had an Astro Bot for like years?

We still have. I mean, we had in a lot of studios. Okay, yeah. For anyone wondering, we know way too much about Astro Bot's capabilities because we had one for a video and then we just kept, we kept it on. What capabilities? It was not capable of anything. Okay, it had a couple things it was supposed to be able to do.

No one needs to know this, but like it was supposed to, like we mapped out desk areas and people's faces. So I could say, go find David and it would wander around until it sees your face. Or I would say, in front of me or Andrew. Yeah. And it would say, I found him, I found him. It was wrong every time. Or we could say like, go over to Andrew's desk.

And so we would say, go to Andrew's desk and then Andrew would get annoyed because it was like bumping into his chair. So he'd be like, go over to David's desk and it would go over to David's desk and bump into his chair and it'd be like, go over to Marquez's desk. So it was okay at that. It would run over your toes all the time. Yeah. And then like, do you remember, if it got too close to two walls at the same time, it'd be like, I have no idea how to get out of it.

It could reverse. Like it had the ability, it had to reverse gear. We got, we got into the studio sometimes and we would find it like tangled in cables, dead next to its dock because it couldn't figure out how to plug itself in. Yeah, but don't worry, this thing's going to keep you safe. The best thing it ever did was it, there was a wire hanging from Tim's desk.

I think he was like rearranging his desk and it pulled out of the charger and its screen was up high enough that the cable went under the screen. So, and it went forward and it was like kind of pulling itself back like it was getting choked and whatever instinct in me ran to it like it was going to stop breathing if I didn't catch it.

It was, I mean, not very capable. I understand why I did it, you know, but yeah, because they've got a thousand of them that they haven't sold yet. It's so funny. It was so funny. Didn't it throw itself down stairs? It had a whole bunch of fun. Yeah, yeah, threw itself down stairs. We never did that. No, we never put it because we don't have stairs in here. We just made a bunch of memes of it on like the Thrasher magazine.

The memes were very funny. Did we never get the refund for it? We still have it. Well, I think when they bricked it, they offered everyone who bought one a refund. Wait, did they actually brick him? $900? They bricked the business skew of it. I don't know if they bricked that. Bro, we should vibe code software for Astro Bot.

We didn't have the business skew of it or whatever. skews doesn't even turn on anymore. Like they fully... I think Tim will quit if we ever turn that thing back on. It's so annoying. Wait, before we leave the ring thing, just Ellis' quick tinfoil hat moment. Uh-huh.

Earlier this year, we did learn from a bunch of people, one of whom, Ellis' favorite YouTuber, Ben Jordan, that ring products are just ridiculously like insecure. So, before you get one on wheels, maybe... You mean on wings? Yeah, that too.

They can see you. They can see everything. They can see everything. All right, hit it. Hit it. I really wanted to ask a question that would compare the sales of the Cybertruck to the sales of the Little Tykes Cozy Coupe.

Oh, it'd get blown out of... Everything would get blown out of the water. The best-selling car of all time, probably. Actually, there are a lot of years where the Cozy Coupe is the best-selling car in America. Yeah. So, that is crazy. There are probably more children than F-150 buyers?

People who buy cars. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like we're going to be talking about the story of the week, which involves a certain chip manufacturer. But we do want to, you know, lightly touch on it by driving two Nvidia-themed trivia questions.

Oh, they're both Nvidia-themed. Yay! Silicon! This is trivia. I thought that was a time-out. Bring on trivia. When we think of PC GPUs, the ones that you put in the towers you have in your home to play games, like World of Warcraft Classic, which probably...

Forever. Forever. Damn it. Classic came out a few years ago. Yeah. Forever just came out this weekend. We think of two companies. We think of Nvidia and AMD. Nvidia was founded in 1993, but what decade was AMD founded in? Wait, AMD was founded in 93, but what decade was AMD founded in?

Nvidia was founded in 93. Did I say that wrong? Unless you said it right. You said Nvidia in 93. My brain interpreted it differently. So what decade was AMD founded? What decade was AMD founded in? I'm going to guess it's not in the 90s. Could be. It's probably like Nintendo, where it was like a different type of company.

That would shock me. It would help to know what AMD stands for. All my dollars. Okay, I will tell you and this kind of gives it away because David was right. AMD actually stands for a meat distributor. Does it actually? No. No, no, absolutely no.

I bought it so fast. I fully bought it. I mean, Nintendo playing card company, that's all I'm going to say. AMD stands for advanced micro devices. Oh, right, right. All right, so transistor. 1880s. Well, we'll think about that. We'll either learn something new or I'll get a trivia point at the end.

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So that's spelled S-C-R-I-B-E dot how slash waveform. Welcome back, my friends. This week, and this is actually good timing because I believe the news about this drops tomorrow, aka yesterday, for when y'all are listening to this.

Google finally, on God for real this time, revealed its intelligent eyewear designs. The glasses. You're wearing them right now. If this gets delayed and it doesn't come out tomorrow slash yesterday, I'm gonna blame you. There is something on the next episode that we do that I'm talking about that I really hope does not get delayed.

Okay. Because they gave me a date and they said, we hope it doesn't get delayed and I said, I hope that for you too. So, this was Google making glasses with like Warby Parker and Gentle Monster. Yeah. And having the smarts in them. Correct. So, Google calls this intelligent eyewear.

they clearly do not want to use the Google Glass branding again, even though I think they should. I think they should. I think they should. Like, Google Glass was not, it's not a negative connotation. I want to just be Google Glasses. Yeah. That is the new version. It's great. I think that the reason is because they're going to be sold by all of these third parties like Gentle Monster and Warby Parker and so, those companies don't want to have Google branded on their...

Glasses with Google built in. Glasses automotive. Android glasses. Sorry, Google glasses. Sorry. Okay. Anyway, I'm going to talk about it. So, last week, last week, I went to Google HQ in Manhattan and they showed me their suite of both Gentle Monster and Warby Parker glasses.

all just sort of like bring you through the demo experience because that sort of gives away their capabilities and shows what they can possibly do. I was there for like three hours and they sort of like brought me through different demos and things like that. First of all, I got to mention they either come in like opaque, they only come in really like opaque colors.

It's like opaque black, opaque green, opaque red. Like the frames. Yeah, the frames. The glasses are still see-through. Sorry, that was a stupid joke. You can still see-through. That was pretty good, actually. Thank you. You could see everything. Yeah. Which was kind of disappointing because my glasses are tortoiseshell and I just like tortoiseshell.

Yeah. I think they look better. Anyway, that's just a small thing. So I'll bring you through the demo experience. Firstly, something that's quite interesting is Google wants everybody who makes glasses with Google built-in, intelligent eyewear, to have basically exactly the same specs so that they don't have to like, you know, be like, oh, this version has this many hours of battery life and this version is faster and this version has a higher resolution camera.

It's like the same internals in every single pair across brands, which I found quite interesting. It makes sense because that lets the person pick the frames that they want and the style that they want rather, yeah, and rather, because I'm sure there would be plenty of people like, I really want this, this looks the best on my face, but that's got a longer battery life, that has a higher megapixel camera.

Yeah. Make that decision. Whoever's picking glasses based on battery life instead of whether it looks good on your face or not is a psycho. There are a lot of psychos out there. Yeah. So every pair of frames has a 12 megapixel camera that can record at 30 FPS. Internals are pretty much identical and there's a camera, there's a record and photo button on the right on every pair of glasses as well.

It's like on the right side of the stems. So first they brought me into this room that had a bunch of different objects like books and trinkets and things like that. They did a lot of general like, tell me about this, you know, the general like, yeah, I know it's a little bit, yeah. Okay. I feel like I did a lot of the same demos like whenever I first got my demo.

Yeah. And I'm curious if anything's changed, but yeah, this is just going to feel like Gemini on your phone. Yeah. But through the glasses, it that's a big thing. It's sort of like you're using Gemini live like all the time. Yeah. Which is kind of nice because Gemini live is a lot more condensed in its responses than regular Gemini is, which gives you like large amounts of text.

Yeah. You can ask it to play music and it has like the downward firing speakers. They sound really good and they have special spatial audio. So I was I was very surprised by that because you can like take a video and then when you're listening, when you're watching the video back, like I had trouble discerning whether or not the guy was actually talking to me behind me or if he was the video of him talking to me, photos will automatically transfer to your phone and videos get stored on the glasses until you transfer them to your phone, which is pretty quick.

They use a combination of like Wi-Fi direct and also Bluetooth to like connect to your phone for different purposes. You can take photos with a click of the shutter or you can hold the shutter button to take a video and they have a tally indicator light, like a recording light, obviously on them.

And I'm going to get to like a security slash privacy section later because I asked them a lot of questions about that because that's what people want to know at the moment. They did a translation demo where they had and it was really good. This is my favorite demo, I think. Yeah.

Do you do? Ellis's too? Yeah. Oh yeah. Ellis's too. It was I was just surprised by the latency because you just say like Google translate this or something and you start talking to somebody and someone starts talking to you and it takes like maybe there's like a maybe a half to a one second delay between it the person talking and it like speaking to you.

It tries to map their voice in a way. It doesn't do like a voice clone but it tries to map they they called it their femininity and masculinity. So it kind of just says like a male versus female voice but it also tries to map like their their like timbre and like pauses and pauses and things like that.

Yeah. I was very surprised at how good the translation worked because it was such a low delay. Can I just say real quick my biggest issue with all these live translation things is especially without a display just audio it's great that I can understand people but then how am I talking back to them.

Crimes. Yeah. True. Yeah. I hit the wrong button. Sorry. But just like like yeah I agree. Somebody could say this whole paragraph to me in Spanish and I'm like see. Like I like I don't know how to respond back.

I need the translation because I can't speak Spanish. Yeah. So unless they also have the live translation back. Remember when the Pixel 2 came out and they released the first Pixel Buds with the wire. Yeah. And that was the first ever Pixel Buds that had live translation and all of their demos were two people talking to each other with Pixel Buds in.

With really long gaps in between everything. It is sort of the Apple universe of we assume everyone uses our products and this can work if every single person on the planet is using our products. No. When we tested I can't believe about to be like when we tested live translation to work but when we tested it in Cupertino it did work.

Yeah. Because it just you use the phone screen the phone screen. Yeah. So if you imagine you're you're you're traveling or something you don't always want to have your phone out like you're in you're in the back of a taxi or something and you're not really necessarily expecting to have a whole conversation but then the driver asks you a question about where you're going.

You can just have that translation. real quick and understand what they said to you and then maybe even type something on your phone and show them the answer and you don't have to have like a whole conversation. It's just like a nice to have convenience. It is a nice to have convenience. I do think it's easier like I had this experience in Japan in like 2017 when Google Translate blew my mind for the first time and I was like in remote part of Japan and I got my phone out with Google Translate and I spoke into it and then it spoke it out in Japanese and he goes oh and then he speaks into Japanese

and it tells me and we're like smiling going back and forth and it was like amazing but when you show someone a phone and you show them that there's a Translate app open they kind of understand what they're doing. Yeah. Whereas when you're wearing glasses and someone's just speaking to you and they don't even really know that you're hearing them in English and then it's like like you said Andrew like how do you speak back to them.

It doesn't tell you it doesn't like tell you how to speak back to them. It doesn't broadcast an answer. So it's kind of you know it's a nicety that is nice to have. They also brought me into this kitchen that had a cookbook that was completely in another language. Oh wait I'm sorry I just thought of one more use of the Translate.

Sure. It's like a superpower. You walk into a room and nobody knows you can understand them. They start speaking a different language but you can still understand them. Like when someone's talking to you in the elevator. Yeah that's big. Yeah that's big. I guess how does it you would have to clue on you would have to be like you're just listening to the conversation and you're like start a live translation.

Yeah. Like what did you say? Nothing. Oh nothing. You're talking about me? Yeah. Well if they can't speak English then they don't even know that you said that. Yeah you know but the thing people do when they switch languages to like talk about you without you understanding. Oh true. Yeah. True. That's that's big time.

We've all experienced this. Happens to me all the time. All the time. That doesn't happen to you guys. But I understand Spanish so. So you just have the superpower already. Yeah. They brought me into a kitchen with a cookbook that was completely in another language and you can just look at it and say you can point at different parts of things and say like tell me about this summarize this explain this and it was good at like identifying the parts of the cookbook that I was looking at and that I wanted to like know about the steps the steps everything.

They had the classic demo that I always find extremely cheesy where they have a blender and a ton of ingredients to go what can I make with this? An omelet. And it was like it was like casserole. Yeah. It was a blender and it was like it was like chop the the apple and then put the celery in and then put some lime in and now you have a smoothie and I was like I should drink omelet.

That's it's three ingredients like I could have done that. I didn't need to ask you. That was that's always struck me as one of the most like like forced demos like no one. Yeah. No one in history has ever asked with a set of five ingredients what can I make.

Like on the counter. No one's ever done that. Yeah. Like if you're the type of person who has random ingredients and knows what they want to cook they already know what they can make. If you have five ingredients and you genuinely don't know what you can make with them I don't think you're asking what can I make with these five things. I've never seen that before.

I've been there before. You've asked. No no no no no I've never asked. You've wondered so you've opened a cabinet seen five random ingredients and thought what can I make right now that will use these five ingredients. I get creative you know what I mean like. All right I take it back.

I think it's fair to see like what I have left over but I think if I have gone to the point of bringing five things out onto the counter to look at I have an idea of where I'm going. You know what would be useful you know how Samsung puts like cameras in your fridge. If Samsung could just be like.

I think they do this. I think that's kind of sure. That actually I could that plus grocery list I think it's supposed to be like you're at the store and you're like oh do I have this ingredient look in my fridge. Somebody tries not to waste food. Yeah. I'm making weird scrap.

I have a handful of almonds. A pound of flour. Almonds, flour. Come on keep going. A lemon. Okay. Half a banana. Okay. Some turkey. And the last two slices of raisin bread. Do I have any do I have any butter? Is there a blender? There's always a blender.

There's a blender. There is always a blender. It's always fine. If I have a blender and I have some butter. Casserole. And I maybe have a little bit of neutral oil. I know it's a little things. You could in theory make an almond croissant out of that. All right. Mars a man. Mars a man. You know I will say it also like tried to bring me through the steps of using a blender which is you put the things in the blender and then you press the blend button.

But you know and what Google Glass ended up being useful for when they had the industrial version of Google Glass was like teaching people how to use things in front of them. And that is a useful version of Gemini Live with a camera is that if I'm like trying to set something up and I don't understand how it's working or whatever. Like I used this the other day.

I was I was trying to under I gutted my 2008 Mac Pro because I was trying to put this SESI card inside of the PCI slot and it was like oh your Mac Pro only has PCI slots but that's a PCI card so it won't fit in there. That was useful. But anyway that's kind of useful.

So then they brought me outside and I asked about some landmarks. It took some photos of like Little Island in New York City. The photos by the way and the video all look like they basically look just like pixel. Does it does it do the thing that the Ray-Ban glasses do where they capture vertical video all the time or is it horizontal?

I don't remember because I was kind of annoyed. I mean I get that they do this because they have a vertical sensor and everyone likes to watch vertical content but if you want to use them for like first-person stuff a lot of times you like miss what's around you like driving footage or something. So I wish it could do widescreen or even like square footage so I could choose widescreen later.

They airdropped it to me so. that's hilarious that they airdropped it from an Android phone probably. Well no from an iPhone. They had iPhones there? They had iPhones there. Paired to. They're like this is my this is my other phone. They also had Android phones but like yeah I can't find it.

I'll have to follow up with you on that aka PR speak. Oh yeah they I don't know where it went. Anyway. Okay so we the photos and the video are pretty good because they basically kind of just look like they're from like a pixel six or something. it's probably the same sensor.

Honestly yeah. In a lot of 12 megapixels. 12 megapixels. It's like the pixel had that sensor up until a pixel six or something. So probably like a pixel five sensor. So it looks pretty good. We went outside and then while I was taking photos I got a video call from somebody who was at a cafe streaming video through their glasses to show me that like what the menu was at the cafe and stuff like that.

So they have like an integration with Google Meet where the glasses can be a camera option. Right. So you can just do POV. To me this felt like the most OG Google Glass demo because this is what they were using Google Glass for. Yeah. So the person one person's on their phone is seeing the video feed hearing the person talking.

Yeah. The other person is just wearing glasses. They can't see anything but they can hear a response. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Or they can see you on their phone. That's solid. So if they look at that it's nothing that you know there was nothing necessarily like crazy that you can't do on the meta glasses.

Google just obviously wants to get into space. One thing that they just casually brushed past that I had to like ask about and I found awesome was that if you have a Fitbit Air specifically you can use it to control the glasses and they have similar like gestures to like the meta neural bands that you wear where you can do like a double tap and it like does things and you can do they have like flicks and like different gestures and you can control the glasses that way.

And I was like oh this is not something I expected but this is really cool because I use a Fitbit Air. Do you remember what gestures you were doing like could it do individual like pinches or was it mostly just flicks? They had a double tap with kind of like on the Apple Watch where you do the double tap to like change menus or whatever.

But like did it have I guess I'm trying to figure out because the whole part of the meta neural band is like the whatever meta car. Oh you're an extra like different sensors trying to figure out things. So you can also do it off camera. So yeah we think this is just using the it's basic controls gyroscopic.

Yeah. OK. Yeah. It's for like it's a little less. It's for invoking Gemini without having to say like hey Gemini which is now the wake word I guess. Hey Gemini. Instead of hey. Yeah. It's like their first thing where you say hey Gemini. OK. Instead of hey G. The other thing.

This is going to be the first thing I think that uses hey Gemini. OK. I don't know I thought that was really cool that you can like you know invoke it with that. It's clever. You know why it's so surprising. Yeah. Because I would think that people who work on a Fitbit Air have never even met people. Like Google having multi interdisciplinary like integration like that is crazy.

This is literally Dieter Bone's job. OK. Hired Dieter Bone to like go across all of the different Google platforms and be like you need to work with these guys. This is how you should work with me this person. That is literally his job. OK. Go off. All right. Go ahead. Matchmaker.

Google matchmaker. Let him cook. OK. I want to talk about privacy because I asked them a ton of questions about this. Oh one other thing. At launch they only work with Pixel 7 series and above Galaxy Galaxy phones and iPhones. OK.

So if you have any other Android phone they're not launching working with other Android phones which I found kind of insane. that is a bit limiting. I mean in the US that's not going to feel limiting to a lot of people but like Motorola is kind of here like there's a little bit of OnePlus hanging around still.

So it's probably that probably covers like 89 percent of. Yeah. Right use right now. Yeah. Because the Gentle Monster ones only launch in South Korea and the US and I think I'm not sure about the Warby Parker ones. I wonder what the limitation is there that they're doing it only for those.

Like why. I think it's just what Google always does. They always artificially they said that after launch they'll have more to share about other Android phones having access and they for some reason always launch things with only like Galaxy and Pixel phones.

Yeah. And I think their plan was Galaxy and Pixel but they knew that Apple doesn't have glasses yet. So they're not competing with Apple to like make an exclusive thing against the iPhone. They're only competing with Meta. Yeah. They're so cooked when they do. They would be totally cooked. So like people that want these recording glasses you know they they're competing against Meta.

So they're just like we have to. Yeah. And something I found cool was that they have basically they have almost exact feature parity on iOS and Android. Yeah. Which is which is pretty cool. Like there's not anything that like only really works. The one thing is that Pixels will obviously automatically like have Meet installed and like when you're in Google Messages and it will automatically whatever.

Sure. but you have to have Meet installed on your iPhone. And then the other person also has to have Meet installed which is like probably not going to happen. Yeah. But yeah it's like the this is we all know when Apple eventually comes out with their glasses. Yeah. They're going to have the most full featured integration with the iPhone that is not possible yet for the Ray-Bans or the Google Glasses.

Yeah. so it's like a ticking get as much user as much user base as possible now until that happens. Totally. Totally. And I mean yeah I think Google they have better privacy stuff than meta in general and a better privacy like people don't think about Google as negatively as meta when it comes to privacy even though they don't have the best reputation but it's not meta.

Yeah. Okay I'll just go across the the way that they look there six designs of the gentle monster ones they come in like dark red pink gray yellow they're paired with tinted clear blue or brown lenses or prescription. They do a black they have black and I think like white but they were saying like special colors are dark red pink gray and yellow.

Okay. Gotcha. Warby Parker they have three styles from their most popular silhouettes they have sunglass options and optical options they come in pine saddle and jet jet black pine is green saddle is brown and jet black is black. Yeah. They start at 395 so they're $50 cheaper.

They both weigh 41 grams which is pretty light and they last up to nine hours and the charging case charges them about seven times. Okay so now I want to go into the the privacy stuff because they actually they had two people specifically to talk to me about privacy which obviously they were going to do and then we went into a room and I recorded and everything.

They also put out a fully separate blog post about the Gemini glasses. I did read that. But here are like the high level things which I think that they took a lot of time to focus on. They were adamant to me that they like oh we weren't reacting to people's reactions to meta.

We were already thinking about this when we were developing them and I'm like okay guys sure. That's what you have to say. So camera visuals are not saved to Gemini history and can and are not used to train AI models or target ads. Glasses.

Okay this is this is a very interesting thing too. Glasses automatically redact people's faces from visuals before being sent to Gemini to process. I saw that. So this is a processor on the glasses that recognizes faces and then basically does face removal and then sends it to Gemini to like process your request.

This is what Meta said they did. Is that what Meta said they did? Yeah and then the AI they were sending it to the whatever place in was it like I forget where it is. Remember the third party place they were sending it to they were saying plenty of them it was not working.

No it would like work and then not work so there's plenty of times you would just see the people's face. Okay. I mean this is based on AI to be like redacted cases so like yeah think about when you put like an AI version of a blur on Final Cut where it just like totally misses. Yeah. That's what this is. Good in theory probably doesn't work.

Yeah. Yeah exactly and then this is their like stance which we're going to have to actually test and there's going to be reports on whether or not this stuff actually works. Data stored in the glasses is encrypted and data that leaves your glasses is encrypted in transit. You have to give individual apps access to the glasses camera and mic and you can turn off those permissions whenever you want.

When you take a photo or a video the indicator light pops up and if something blocks the light their glasses refuse to record. Testing on the one of the demo units I noticed I was like kind of pressure testing them. If I was holding my finger over the light when I tried to record it would not record and it would say the indicator lights blocked.

But when I recorded and then put my finger over the light it didn't stop recording. So that was interesting but whether or not that ship we'll have to test that on an actual review unit. All glasses have a physical on and off switch and I think that they did this because like the metaglasses when they were just like turning on randomly and recording people like Google didn't want to have to deal with that.

Before using intelligent eyewear users must agree to not record others without permission not record in sensitive spaces and not cover the recording indicator not following these requirements as a violation of the terms of service and a user's ability to use the glasses may be disabled.

So pinky swear. Pinky swear. Yeah. Like how would how do you police that other than disabling it for recording indicator light. Like could somebody report someone for using it in a sensitive place. Yeah. Well something they're doing across their platforms which is quite interesting is they're on YouTube they're banning all harassment and sexualization videos.

Any video uploaded to YouTube with from any source must follow this policy. And Google is banning ads for accessories or services targeted at it removing or hiding the indicator light. So they're specifically going after these like randomly asking people out on the street and seeing their reaction kind of videos.

Which at least the harassing ones. I've seen some really great I hate to admit this but a really great meta reaction. There's a magician I follow on Instagram. Who just goes up to people on the street. He goes up to people on the street. I'll probably shout him out. His name is Harrison.

We'll link him down below. He walks up to people and just starts doing card tricks to people. He like hops off his one wheel and he's like pick a card. And then pick a card and he just produces it from the top of the deck. And the only way to get those incredible reactions is to already be recording as you walk up to a person. So they have to make some sort of a judgment call on all right this one is too far we don't like this one or this one's okay.

Yeah. You got to trust Google to make the right call. And this is why in general I just don't like cameras on people's faces at all because regardless of what these policies are going to be the line is going to be so so thin and it's going to be up to these companies to have to police millions of pieces of content and there's going to be pieces of content that slip through the cracks.

There's going to be pieces of content that get taken down when they probably didn't violate the policy and it's going to be there. It's like everything that we went through in social media sort of like 2017. Yeah exactly. Again. You become a platform again. Yeah. Anyway ads on Google Play cannot use the recording light to or do live streams.

So you can't you can't live stream from the glasses with any app on Google Play. Except you can do Google meetings. Yes. And then I guess that's considered a live stream. Yeah. I don't stream meetings before but okay. Also activating the glasses requires a Google account that's 18 years or older.

Which which is which is good. Yeah. Because I imagine that a lot of people that want to do these prank videos and stuff are probably like 15 you know. So as long as they don't get around this. I'm like generally interested in these. I think I'm more interested when they have the version with the display because I do remember there are certain things about the demos that seem like they would be even more useful and intuitive with the display.

Like the one which is like the translate for example. You walk up to someone they start talking to you. It starts overlaying the text right over their face so you can maintain eye contact through the glass but also read what they're saying. Yeah. I like that. Google Maps navigation.

Yes. So they can sort of overlay a directional arrow over the ground so they can show you where you're supposed to be going or like a top down view of your map so you can just walk out of the subway and start going the right way. And not have to constantly look at your phone and that felt like Google glass like. That was one of the best features for sure. Yeah. So stuff like that.

I think that having the display whenever they eventually make the version with the screen I think that's the one I'm most curious about like using. Yeah. But it's fine for them to yeah finally catch up to the Ray-Bans. You know what smart glasses had to display? What smart glasses had to display? Google Glass.

It's true. That's true. But they didn't overlay it over the world. It was in the corner like an H-E-D. Yeah. Yeah an H-E-D. And everyone thought that they could do the Google Maps overlay thing. Yeah. But it was just a corner H-E-D thing. A lot of the demos were like that. I can't wait for the overlay. Yeah. I still think even like an H-E-D in these glasses that could just give me an arrow 300 feet.

Right. Yeah. Like that's for like city walking and stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah. So they're going to be available December 10th. Sweet. Glasses.google. Just like googlebook.google. Dot google thing. Dot google baby. I definitely liked them a lot more than the metaglasses.

I don't know how much of that is tainted by the fact that I just never want meta on my face. And I just don't like camera glasses in general. I did ask them are you making an audio only version of these? Because I do like sometimes talking to Gemini and it would be nice to just have that.

but I know that they want a lot of the features of this to be like things that you're looking at things like that. But it's still I just again the whole privacy thing it's like privacy is two ways and it sucks that people don't get to know that they're just like being recorded all the time.

Yeah. So you know that Apple watch feature finally rolled out in beta. Yeah. I've heard nothing about that since. Yeah. Quietly launched on like the 27.3 beta or whatever it was. Stephen Reblis just made a video about it. actually. Yeah. You can do live rewind or you can potentially be being recorded by someone's Apple watch starting now.

Yeah. Just a heads up. Just heads up. We live in surveillance state. Okay. One last Google thing. There is a November pixel drop that just came out yesterday on Tuesday but three days ago by the time you're listening to this. The pixel drop for some reason includes the fact the pixel tag is available which is not a software thing but it is available.

Gemini intelligence is now coming to pixel 10 and includes things like Rambler and automations. Nice. It also includes create my widget. New icon new custom icon styles. Highlight is now available in Google messages and glows when you receive a text from one of your favorite contacts.

You did it Google. Almost. You made Highlight slightly more useful. Yeah. For one app. The fabiast of steps. For one single app. For the texting app and it still has to be your favorite contacts. It still has to be a favorite. Yeah. I still wish it was app independent.

I wish I had notification. Yeah. Yeah. Things that we had with the Nexus 6. I forgot I had that feature. I don't even use it. Nexus 1. Nexus 1. Yeah. True. Damn. I don't know. I mean yeah there's the original droid. There's apps you can sideload now.

Well that's that. I think that we should have another Chinese spy question. All right. We now associate NVIDIA with inventing the modern GPU but I need a point so bad. What electronics giant was making what they called a GPU one year before NVIDIA's first chip the NV1?

When you say they called the GPU the company that invented it. No but like this could just be something a company calls a GPU or you mean like what we know which stands for graphics processing unit. I was going to say like it would be so funny if it was just a totally different acronym.

Yeah. It's like a bidet. Our GPU. A company made a GPU before NVIDIA. Interesting. I have an idea. There's two acceptable answers. Kodak. I do think it's one of those two. I agree. It's definitely one of those two answers.

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Thanks to Base44 for sponsoring this episode. Welcome back. We also got to talk about Adobe Max. We talk about this every year. This is their big conference in which they unveil a lot of things. You know, the last few years have been very, very Gen AI focused, which felt very conflicting with what Adobe has always been about.

what their users probably wanted, what their users wanted. The last few years, people have been pretty mad at them. This year, the vibe. Redemption arc? Half. It was half redemption arc. So I went. That's not, isn't, isn't that just like being the same?

Like if I have half of redemption arc, I'm still evil. That's true. The first half of the redemption arc is not the good part. You just kind of stay evil. Yeah. I don't know. I went this year because I wanted. The first half is the one that takes you to the bottom. Oh, the arc.

Yeah. Maybe two, two thirds of redemption arc is the redemption arc. The redemption arc is the second part of the second part of the right. Right. Okay. So when you refer to the redemption arc, you're only referring to the second half of the redemption arc. Is it still an arc if it's only half an arc? I guess technically that is still an arc.

Or is that just a, yeah, an arc can be any. Oh, you're right. Of radius. You're right. Yeah. It doesn't have to be full. All right. I take it back. So it is a redemption arc. I guess when you said half a redemption arc, there is no such thing as half an arc because it's just another arc. Arc? Another arc?

Another arc. You mean Helium and Ardia and Oh my God. Every single browser in my inbox. Anyway, I went this year because I was very curious to kind of analyze Adobe's posture going forward because it seems that as this sort of anti-AI pushback has gotten bigger and bigger and especially in the last three to six months as vibe coding has gotten really

insane and there's been all these things where people have like reverse engineered all of Adobe's apps and then just released them for free. Right. Yeah. And they don't, a lot of them like don't work completely, but you can see the trajectory. Yeah. And in my opinion, I believe that probably 95% of Adobe's users use like 2% of the features.

Yeah. So the five coded sloppy version does what people need. Everything they need, even though it's not the whole Adobe. Right. Yeah. So I went because I was like, I want to see is Adobe going to be defensive or offensive about the future?

Okay. Um, the first 50% of the keynote actually was pretty cool. And they added a lot of features that I think are very helpful for like creative professionals. The second half was for the investors, uh, where they have this suite called Firefly, which is sort of their like stock videos.

It's their gen AI thing. It's too many things at the same time. It's basically like it's their gen AI thing, but now it does so many things that it's sort of they're like, I'm not a creative professional, but I still need a tool that does this. It's like their Canva competitor in a way, but they're like feature bloating it in a huge, like it has a bazillion features.

So it's sort of hard. The second half of the keynote was for that, which to me is just to signal to the stock, the shareholders that they're like all in on AI. But I just want to go through, um, a few of the kind of headline things that they talked about. Uh, the overarching thing is that they're adding this thing that they all call a creative agent into like all of their software.

So currently, you know, they have a little text box in like Photoshop or Lightroom or whatever. When you're doing like generative fill, you can say fill it, make, create this thing, make this. Now there's a text box where you can just ask it to like perform actions for you.

Um, which is pretty useful in my opinion. You know, if you're like using Photoshop and you're like, I want to do this, but I don't know how to do this. Like you can ask it to do it for you and it'll do it. But instead of just like performing the actions and not showing anything, it actually uses the tools within Photoshop to like create math, do this, blah, blah, blah, change this thing.

So you can see one, you can see the process of how it does it. Like teaches a man how to fish. Yeah, basically. Interesting. It's a teaching a fish how to man for sure. Um, water lifetime. And so that's nice because it's non-destructive. Uh, you can go in and tweak things after that.

And it's sort of teaching you. I was thinking this would be really useful in something like After Effects because I have no idea how to use After Effects and asking it to like, Oh, make a motion like this or like do this like this. And like seeing how it does it in a way it's like teaching you in real time, which is really cool.

Um, they have examples of all of the things that they did this for in Photoshop. They, they asked the assistant how to, how would you go about boosting vibrance, which like, I don't know, there's a vibrant slider. So it's a simple use that. Um, yeah. In Premiere, you can say like string out all the underwater footage I took into a sequence and that's pretty cool.

So it like looks at all your footage and then it strings it into a sequence. Yeah. Again, like you probably want to decide on that sequence. There's things like that. Interesting. Um, illustrator, you can say like place all of these objects into separate art boards. And that's something, there are things in these apps that are busy work.

And the way that I see using like AI in creative apps is if you can remove busy work for things that are not creative decision making, that just take me forever to do and are annoying, you know, like, um, not key framing, but, uh, when you're like in movies and rotoscoping, rotoscoping was like the first thing that, Yeah.

Yeah. Got taken over by AI a number of years ago. And that nobody wants to do rotoscoping. Yeah. It's my passion. I think that's exactly where the line is. So I was just thinking about final cuts, like AI features that they've built in. Yeah. And I think they, they push the line just a little bit short of what Adobe seems to be doing from your description, like beat detection in final cut.

Yeah. You ask for beat detection. It draws the lines on the timeline where the beats are. It doesn't line up all the clips for you, but it makes it easier to do the lining up of your clips. It doesn't put them on the timeline. It just lets you do it faster. Right. Um, rotoscoping or masking, like you said, it's like, okay, I'm not going to, it's not going to do any decisions for me, but it knows what I was about to do, which is separate the foreground from the background.

Yeah. And then it just does that to the best of its ability really fast instead of manual rotoscoping. Yeah. That I think is a sweet spot for an AI tool in a creative app. Yeah. It seems like Adobe is going slightly further. If you're saying put these like make a sequence for me, that's a little more.

For sure. But I think it's sort of, it's sort of both. It's like what you want to use it for. And they do want to enable people to automate a lot of these things, which I don't love, you know, like I don't want just like the content factory to be pumping out content as fast as possible without people looking at it.

Some people want that. Some people do want that. A lot of companies and marketers and people who make reels. Gary V apparently wants that because he wants to make a thousand pieces of content. You're not making 10 million pieces of content. Every single day. They're also adding MCP support across their apps.

So you can basically plug in like Claude or OpenAI or Gemini and then use those agents to like do things in your creative apps. And again, you know, I don't want these things to just be generating things for me, but making masks like showing me how to use these tools.

That's like an actually useful thing to have an agent for. Yeah. In Lightroom, they have a bunch of new glow tools. So they have like halation, diffusion, bloom, motion and streak styles that you can apply globally or through a mask. All I want is green. Can I add green or no? There's got to be. There's been green, but I don't think Lightroom's green has been good.

So I think they need to. They didn't point their AI machines at making better green. Yeah, they should do that. That's all I want. Yeah. Give me film, but not film. Yeah. They have a vector scope so you can have hue and saturation on skin tones across Adobe RGB and sRGB previews, which is really helpful because when you export it, you get to know the sort of format.

Generated depth maps for photos without depth data. So right now they have a mode that you press a button and it like creates artificial depth of field. Yeah. Now it will generate a depth map for you so you can actually use that depth map to do things with. Nice. Which is cool.

There's color grading masks now. So if you make a mask on something, you can color grade with that because previously it was only light. It was only like contrast, exposure, things like that. Surprised you couldn't do that before. I was also surprised you couldn't do that before. Yeah. There is a one tap blemish removal, which removes pimples and blemishes.

There's an open eye tool where if you have multiple photos of the same person, but one of them doesn't they're blinking, you can go to the other photo and use it as a reference and then it like creates their eyes in the other photo, which is exactly what Google did.

Yeah. That you didn't like Andrew, where it saw multiple photos of Lane and it like. Don't do it automatically. Yeah. Let me do it. Don't do it automatically. They have tethering Photoshop. It has the relight tool, which they previewed a while ago where you can take like any flat images image and create like like light on a light source in 3D space.

And that works really well. You can create up to three light sources and adjust the position, color, intensity and diffusion, which is pretty interesting. There's generative restyle layers. So you can just talk about the style you want, but then it turns it into a layer with a slider, which is kind of weird.

remove objects and related elements. So if you have objects you want to remove, if it casts like a shadow or reflection or whatever, it automatically identifies shadows, reflections, things that the object is doing in the scene and it also removes those. Okay. So that's helpful.

That's really quick. Generative upscale, which we all know what that is. Generative recompose. So if you put an object in a scene, you can press that and it will like make it so the aspect ratio and the position of the object matches the scene.

Okay. So like, I don't know, if I took a picture of this Red Bull can and I put it in a random like flat scene, it would sort of like turn it and like squash it a little bit to make it look more natural. Hmm. Which is interesting. Premiere can do, this was like their highlight feature for Premiere, generative, generative remove.

So the example they had was they're like filming an A-roll and then a random person like walks through the front of the scene. Happens all the time. Which probably happens to like influencers are like filming in the city all the time, I'm assuming. And it will like take all of those scenes and generative fill like every frame where they're walking through.

And it looked pretty impressive, but who knows? They have new enhanced audio features where you can separate vocals, music, and wind into separate channels that you can edit separately. Uh, that seemed really good. Oh. They have it in Premiere Mobile as well. And I talked to someone who was like, I just use my phone as a microphone now.

Yeah. And I just use it. I just click this button and it just sounds like I was using an actual mic. That's good. So that's good. I've seen a couple other tools, even though the ones like built into the phones that try to do that. Yeah. Like Google, pretty sure it's Google Photos has that built in. Yeah. And like Xiaomi. I've shot autofocus videos basically where they're like, oh, you're shooting a video, there's a voice.

Did you just want to separate out all of the background noise and the wind and everything? Yeah. And they, some are okay, some are like not that great. Yeah. This separates it into channels and in the Premiere mobile app, you can have like the amount that you want the wind to be in the scene. Yeah. And the example they showed, they put the wind at 10%.

Just turn it down tastefully. Because if you turn it down to zero, it feels robotic. It feels like not natural. Yeah. So that was cool. Color mode grading tools, which is basically them trying to compete with Resolve because in the past, like Premiere's color grading has been awful and people would literally export from Premiere and then import into Resolve just to color grade.

So they really need to compete there. And then I didn't love this. This is kind of weird. Generative media. So you can generate sound effects, video and like other things and it will appear directly in the timeline. So you can just say like, I need like a siren sound effect and it will just make one, which really makes things strange.

Yes. Regarding like licensing and like stock libraries and things like that. Because if you can just generate anything, also video, they had a crazy feature in Premiere where it was like they had person that was a person that was in like Iceland standing on this cliffside and they said, make a drone shot of the drone flying over me.

And it looks like a legit drone shot of flying over them on that exact cliffside. I don't like that. I don't want to just like generate new video that didn't exist. Like I think we need to have a level of like this actually happened.

Yeah. I see so many of those demo clips on Twitter where people would be like, this is unbelievable. It's so technically impressive. I agree. it's really impressive that it can do that. I just don't want to do that. Yeah. Does that make sense? Totally. Totally.

Totally. Yeah. They were too, the scientists were too worried about if they could. Whether or not they should. And then the one last big thing that they talked about, they have this thing that's popular music. So now they have licensing with UMG and stuff. So you can just use song like any song basically.

Yeah. you can use like any song. But then they showed me a demo because they made a big deal about it in the keynote. And I was like, whoa, that's actually crazy because they have Adobe stock for music as well. But like, why would anyone use stock music when they can use like popular music? And I was like, I don't understand how the licensing of this works.

So I pulled someone aside and I was like, what's the deal with the licensing on this? Like, how does this work? And they didn't know. So they showed me a demo of Premiere Mobile with the new feature. And when you select a song, this pop up comes up that literally says like, you cannot use this for any commercial use, including sponsored posts, sponsored stories, sponsored reel.

And I was like, so what is the value of this? Like, I guess you can use it in your personal video. Yeah. Anything that makes no. Yeah. I mean, I guess there is YouTube too. I can make a video, put a popular song on it. I'm just not going to get any money from it. Just don't monetize it.

Just don't monetize it. Yeah. Yeah. But I don't know. The positioning of it was like, oh, look at the value here. You can now use any popular. I guess if you wanted to make like a personal wedding video or like a birthday video, being able to just use like a Sabrina Carpenter song is like helpful. Specifically. I don't know. Evergreen.

Yeah, sure. The second half of the keynote was all Firefly, which is all generative stuff. And it's just very bloated and very like generate this, generate that, generate that. I was like, oh, God. Like what is their plan for Firefly? Did it come across at all?

What they're like? What is the point of it? Firefly to me. Is it like their Gemini? Like it's just a name they use for like all of their things. It's like all of their generatives. It's their their their model, basically. so it's kind of like Gemini, but it's also a suite of apps because they're competing with Canva because Canva got huge because it's like you can make good looking things.

Marketers love Canva because they can make good looking things for like very low effort. It's super easy. They want to compete with that. They also know like they made this big stat at the beginning of the keynote where they said we're proud to announce that now one billion users touch Adobe tools every single month.

And I was like, OK, like that's a lot of people. But Adobe tools is like a wide net. Yeah, because you can Acrobat. Yeah, you can Google online. You can Google like edit photo online. And there's like a Firefly, like free Firefly tool that's super limited, but lets you do what you need to do.

And like that counts as a user. You know what I mean? Go count that. Yeah. So anyway, I would say their positioning is that they realized that they went way over the line the last few years with just everything being generative. and now like a lot of creatives like really hate Adobe. So the first half felt like, OK, we're helping you do your creative stuff better.

But then the back half was sort of the investor part of the keynote. I don't use any Adobe products. Oh, really? I realized I use zero Adobe products. Photoshop or I don't Lightroom. I don't use Lightroom. I don't use Photoshop. I don't use Premiere. I don't use After Effects.

We have people on the team that use parts of all of these things. Yeah. But it's good to know that they are. I want to pressure test Premiere with MCP support just to see what it does. I last when when I had to edit a short for this podcast a few weeks ago, I really wanted this effect where I would have like Final Cut type one word on the screen at once.

and I couldn't figure out how to do it because I'm not that great at Final Cut and Final Cut does not have MCP support. And so I did this hilarious dance with Claude of exporting XMLs and having it generate me these like Final Cut motion file, like Apple motion files that I would drop into my template.

Wow. It worked, but it would have been way easier with an MCP connection. Yeah. I just want to see like how good these models are at cutting footage and things like that just to test the capabilities. Just to see. just to see. It's good enough. Claude is good enough at cutting footage when you do the the wacky XML handoff thing.

Yeah. That in the past I've been like I made these cuts on an export of a video. Here's the Final Cut project that has the original timeline. Recreate all of these cuts for me. Yeah. The original timeline. Yeah. And it always works. A friend of mine who makes YouTube videos and he edits all of his videos.

He has Claude now just cut his A-roll for him because he has long. He has like yeah he has like a five to ten second pause between every thing and he told Claude my last take is always my is always the one I want to go with. Yeah. And so now he will like import it like tell Claude like cut my A-roll and then he'll go get lunch and come back and his A-roll is just laid out and then he can like he'll actually edit the video.

but this is sort of where my line is is I'm happy to let AI like do time like time intensive redundant tasks that nobody likes doing. But I want to actually be in creative control. I'm not going to tell it just like create this video. Make my video.

Yeah. Yeah. So that's where my line is. Yeah. Yeah. Well we'll test it by having Claude edit this podcast and we'll just see like. Yeah. Great idea. It does. You know. It's me. I'm Claude. I'm Claude. Hi. When when this comes out though we should we should upload two versions of the same episode.

One we're out of effort. And then one where it's like we just say Claude edit the waveform podcast. No other instructions. Just let it do its thing. That would be that would be crazy. That would be the ultimate A-B test. Yeah. Incredible. So. All right. Well I mean that could be a studio video.

Didn't we do that with Tim? It was like can AI replace nail designer. That was when like the first AI image generator came out and it was horrible. That was Adobe Max. You know what it's time for. Trivia Max. Trivia Maxing. I'm points maxing today. All right.

Well I already got the first one so technically you're not maxing it. You know what? It was a mentality. What decade was the first one right? Yeah Andrew. What decade was AMD founded? Founded. Huh.

AMD. Advanced Micro Devices. Yeah. 17. 38. That's sexy. AMD powered the covered wagons that brought people out west.

Yeah. Is this closest without going over or delta? I was just going to give it to everyone who got the question right. There's one decade. So potentially nobody gets points. Yeah. Old school trivia. I thought one of you would get it.

Well I guess we'll see. Oh. Okay. Yeah. I tried the 30s. Yeah. Okay. What did you guys say? You guys said the same. I know that. If you're both right I'm going to lose it. I know that AMD's like big growth moment was in the 80s but I don't know if they like were founded in the 70s.

That felt like a trick question. I just you said in video is the 90s. Then I thought the obvious answer is the 80s but that felt too obvious. So then I went one step back. Was it actually 80s? I was the 60s. Oh. Nobody gets points. It was 1969. Nobody is.

I'm so close. No matter how far away you were you were wrong. One more point up for grab. Who's going to grab it? We now associate NVIDIA with inventing the modern GPU but what electronics giant was making what they called a GPU one year before NVIDIA's first chip the NV1?

Two acceptable answers for this one. How are there two answers? We'll explain. They changed their name? No that's a good guess. That would be cool. But no they did not change their name. Think really hard guys. AMD. We know NVIDIA was invented or founded in the 90s.

This chip was made one year before that. I mean I think I know what the obvious answer is and I did right? What do you got? Probably AMD huh? We all put please tell me we're all wrong that would be so funny. We put three different companies. Oh.

We're definitely all wrong. I put IBM. It was definitely AMD wasn't it? I put Apple. Intel. I'm like Intel. Nope. All wrong. There were two answers that were acceptable neither of which you guys chose. It was Sony or Toshiba.

Oh. Because it was in the first PlayStation. A GPU in the first PlayStation. the GPU was coined by Sony when they were developing the graphics processing unit in the original PlayStation. It was the silicon was designed by Toshiba and it was manufactured by Sony.

But yes. The more you know. From Search Around we did learn this morning that the term GPU was coined by Sony for the PlayStation. Well I'm still on the hunt for my trivia points but that's okay. That's okay.

I will continue searching. Thank you guys for watching and for listening to this week's episode. Tech Vember rolls on. Rolls on. See you guys very soon in the next one. Peace. Goodbye. Wayform is produced by Adam Molina and Ellis Roven we're part of Vox Media Podcast Network and our true outro music was created by Vane Still.

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