The Thinking Atheist People James Madison Person James Madison 2 mentions in 1 episode Founding father whose real and fake quotes about church-state separation are both discussed. Mentions Go Fact Yourself: "Skeptics" Aren't Immune to Fake News Sep 15, 2026 32:37 Real 1822 letter quote about religion and government existing better separated. 33:01 Fake quote about separation of church and state preventing European-style bloodshed.