Grumpy Old Geeks Products Apple TV Product Apple TV 2 mentions in 1 episode A streaming device the hosts prefer to use instead of built-in smart TV operating systems for privacy reasons. Mentions 762: ‘Tis But a Misalignment Sep 10, 2026 59:32 Get yourself an Apple TV or one of the other dedicated devices. 59:47 I choose the Apple TV because I distrust Apple the least.