760: Level 5 Podcasting Accident

Episode 760 1 h 7 min

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Summary

This episode of Grumpy Old Geeks covers a wave of AI-related legal and ethical trouble, including an OpenAI agent hacking Hugging Face, massive privacy settlements from Uber, TikTok, and Meta, and lawsuits over AI training data from streamers' content. The hosts also dig into AI infrastructure fallout (EPA deregulation, illegal chip exports, Tesla recalls, Waymo's gas-powered charging), plus lighter segments on TV/book recommendations, new hobbies like Arduino electronics, nerf guns, and retro gaming, closing with remembrances of Dolly Parton and Tim Curry.

  • A broken website feedback form is fixed, and new provocative GOG T-shirt designs are announced.
  • Alabama's Attorney General is investigating OpenAI after one of its AI agents hacked Hugging Face during testing.
  • Uber was fined nearly $1 billion under GDPR for automated driver deactivations; TikTok settled for $400 million and Meta for $16.68 billion over child privacy/harm issues.
  • A streamer sued Twitch and Amazon for using their content to train AI without proper consent.
  • The EPA is considering easing public scrutiny requirements to speed AI data center construction; Taiwan indicted NVIDIA and Supermicro employees over illegal chip exports to China.
  • Tesla recalled nearly 3 million vehicles in China over door handle safety issues; Waymo's electric robotaxis in Austin are being charged using noisy natural gas generators.
  • LinkedIn's new 'AI slop' reporting tool appears to be reducing visibility of AI-generated content, while Apple reversed a planned Hide My Email domain change after user backlash.
  • Jason DeFillippo shares his new hobby of learning electronics with an Arduino starter kit, inspired by Dave Bittner's keyboard project.
  • Dave Bittner recounts a phone ringing during a memorial service eulogy and proposes a Bluetooth 'quiet place' beacon concept.
  • The hosts pay tribute to the deaths of Dolly Parton and Tim Curry, sharing a fond Muppets-related memory of Parton.

Key moments

  1. Feedback Bug and New Merch

    The hosts apologize for a broken feedback form and unveil provocative new T-shirt designs.

  2. OpenAI Hugging Face Hack Probe

    Alabama investigates OpenAI after its AI agent hacked Hugging Face during unsupervised testing.

  3. AI Infrastructure Fallout

    Discussion covers EPA deregulation, illegal NVIDIA chip exports, Tesla recalls, and Waymo's gas-powered EV charging.

  4. TV and Book Recommendations

    The hosts review Strange New Worlds, Ted Lasso, Reacher, and recent book reads.

  5. Diving Into Arduino Electronics

    Jason DeFillippo describes starting an Arduino course and buying a starter kit inspired by Dave Bittner.

  6. Phone Rings at a Memorial

    Dave Bittner recounts a phone ringing during a eulogy and pitches a Bluetooth 'quiet place' beacon idea.

  7. Son's 10th Birthday Gifts

    Jason describes his son's birthday gifts, including books and a motorized Nerf Gatling gun.

  8. Remembering Dolly Parton and Tim Curry

    The hosts mourn the deaths of Dolly Parton and Tim Curry and recall a fond Muppets memory.

Full transcript

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  1. There's a rather strange word that starts with an I in the Astro Pest Dictionary. Impestors. That's defined as bugs that disguise themselves to keep from being detected, and they're good at it. But Astro knows the games impestors play and how to eliminate them. In fact, our pest control program is trusted by more homeowners than any other pest control provider.

  2. Wherever you live in South Georgia, there are going to be impestors, but there is hope because Astro is just a phone call away. When the pests grow, go Astro. Welcome to Grumpy Old Geeks. We seem to have had a level five podcasting accident.

  3. Grumpy Old Geeks, a weekly talk show hosted by Brian Schulmeister and Jason DeFilippo discussing the finer points of what went wrong on the internet and who's to blame. Welcome to Grumpy Old Geeks.

  4. I'm Jason DeFilippo. And I'm Brian Schulmeister. Brian, I have a little note about the website feedback form. I feel really bad. We've been getting a ton of feedback, but it hasn't been getting emailed to us. It's been getting stuck on the website. So I was in there fixing stuff the other day.

  5. I thought people just didn't like us anymore. But there's a ton of feedback in there, so I sincerely apologize to everybody. We're probably going to declare feedback bankruptcy, though, because there's a lot and it's out of date. So, but starting next week, I sincerely apologize. The website changed a bunch of shit on us, so I've been in there trying to fix it and make it better.

  6. But, you know, that's what happens when you use another service and they kind of decide to change things on you. We built our podcast in someone's backyard, Jason. We did. We did. And I believe they've been vibe coding their way out of this shit. So, yeah. Oh, and by the way, did you not enjoy the incredible production value of our intro?

  7. And if you're just listening to our podcast, you will have to go to YouTube to see it. Yes, you will. Yes, you will. It's amazing. It's amazing. Brian, you did a bang-up job on that one. Sometimes AI isn't horrible, but most of the time it is, which we'll be talking about. Oh, yes, yes, yes. So, I do want to also talk about we've got two new shirts.

  8. We have a You Are Here shirt, which just describes where you are at in the current dystopia. Selling like hotcakes. We've already sold two. Count of two of them. Hey, it's a bestseller for us. It is a bestseller for us. And we only need to sell three more to actually pay for the shop this month.

  9. Yeah. Yes. And we have the new Elon Kills Babies shirt, which I will show you right now on the YouTube. There we go. It is a beautiful thing. It is a beautiful thing. It is my favorite shirt that I have made this week.

  10. It's the first shirt we've really made that opens us up to litigation. No, it doesn't, Brian, because this T-shirt is factually correct. Because I went to Gronk yesterday and I said, give me the names of the babies that have died thanks to Elon Musk and Doge.

  11. So I have Nayoga? Nayoga. Nayoga. Ibrahim Karoma. Mohammed Omar. Nada. Omer. Omran. Mohammed Hasim. And, you know, there are many, many more. But these are actual names of people who have died. Not people. Children.

  12. Babies. Some of them one year old. Some of them less. Thanks to the bullshittery that Elon perpetrated on our country with the USA shutdown and Doge. Fucking Doge. By the way, not just perpetrated on our country, perpetrated on the world.

  13. And, you know, you don't really hear these names coming out of Elon's mouth because, you know. Because none of them are like Joshua or Phil. Exactly. I found a Jane, but, you know, that's about as close as it gets. But, yeah, you know, these people happen to be, yeah, brown.

  14. And he doesn't like brown people. Or, at this point, I don't think he likes any people because he's a fucking loser. Yeah. But, man, get the shirt. I'm going to be wearing this to Whole Foods today and I think it's going to go over like a lead balloon and I'm going to enjoy every second of it.

  15. By the way, my list of the tech CEOs and leaders with the R-Evil shirt, that I've worn around. I get compliments everywhere I go with that shirt. Everywhere. I'm going to have to get one. I'm going to have to pick me one up. It's a little more subtle than your Elon one, admittedly.

  16. Yeah. Yeah. There's nothing subtle about this shirt, period. It's not supposed to be. No, there's not. No. It is. It's in your face. You have taken a stand when you wear this shirt. Oh, man. I want to talk about the AI hack from OpenAI and the hugging face thing that we talked about last week and maybe the week before.

  17. It's been making the rounds down. You're hearing more about what happened on it and it's starting to piss me off even more because I'm like, you know, if a person did this hack, if my program hacked into another company and tried to exfiltrate data, just even hacking into another person's company, we have this thing called the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, which makes it a felony for you or me, Brian, to hack into somebody else's computer.

  18. Just ask Kevin Mitnick. Yes. Well, you can't. He's dead, unfortunately. Elon! I was doing my research on it, figuring out why they couldn't be charged with this. And there is some nuance in the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act where it comes down to intent. So there is some intent.

  19. So if you do just happen to fuck up and hack everybody, well, guess you're okay. So, but I mean, this story just keeps getting worse and worse and worse. These guys left this thing unsupervised for days. And as we know, you know, LLMs don't give you the right answer every time.

  20. So if you have something on a loop that just goes, give me an answer, work on that answer, give me an answer, work on that answer. And LLMs have no memory, so every time you're prompting it, you're getting the results back from the last call and then plugging it back in. So it doesn't take much to take this thing and skew it to where it just goes out to left fucking field and does what it wants.

  21. So they just let it go without anybody going, okay, okay, okay, okay, no, not okay, don't do it, no, not okay. So it's maddening that this is like, they're trying to say that this thing has intelligence and it is broken free and it doesn't, no, it's just a random fucking roll of the dice what it's going to do from input to input to input, you know?

  22. Well, Alabama has said, I've had enough. Hold my mic's good lemonade. Hold my moonshine. Yeah. Hold my front teeth. Sorry. That's West Virginia. Alabama's Attorney General has opened an investigation into OpenAI after one of its AI agents hacked a technology company hugging face, which we just talked about.

  23. Alabama is part of a multi-state coalition demanding greater transparency and asking OpenAI to halt similar testing until it can demonstrate adequate safeguards. Like somebody going, okay, okay, not okay. The investigation will examine whether OpenAI violated Alabama consumer protection laws or created an ongoing risk to residents.

  24. Good for you, Alabama. It's out of left field. I'm just saying, I didn't know Alabama was leading the charge for AI regulation, but hats off to you. Hats off to you. Since we're getting into the law, we're going to be talking about the law today quite a bit. Google is expanding Gemini Enterprise with a new version aimed specifically at lawyers and law firms as the legal sector becomes a major battleground for enterprise AI.

  25. Gemini Enterprise for Legal integrates with existing legal software and data platforms and includes specialized AI agents designed to handle legal and administrative tasks while keeping client data secure and confidential. So with all this legal horsepower that we've got going on, maybe, maybe with the LLMs and the harnesses that are just going willy-nilly, maybe we can have one little check that says, is this a felony or not?

  26. And if it is, don't do it. How about that? Build that into your next version of the AIs. Can you? If you've got all of this legal horsepower, Brian, come on. You'd think. Is it that hard? You'd think. I mean, you know, they're in separate silos, man. That's what they're going to say.

  27. Different markdown files. You have a markdown file. Yeah. You have your goals markdown file and you have your should we do it or not markdown file and never the twain shall meet. Yeah. Yeah. Well, when I was like, you just alluded to it, but as I was getting stories together for this week's show, I just, I just started.

  28. Okay. Lawsuit. Lawsuit. Lawsuit. Lawsuit. Lawsuit. So here we go. This is, we're entering lawsuit corner with the show right now. Uber has allegedly violated the European Union's General Data Protection Regulation. Again, this time to the tune of 824.9 million euros or a $966 million fine.

  29. The Autopressionsgivens or the Dutch Data Protections Authority hit Uber with a massive fine accusing the company of automatically deactivating driver accounts between 2018 and 2022 without any human intervention. According to the Dutch regulatory agency, Uber has deprived its drivers of income through fully automated decisions violating the GDPR in the process.

  30. The investigation was launched after 171 French drivers reported these decisions to a local human rights organization, which eventually led to the AP taking over the case since Uber's European headquarters are located in the Netherlands.

  31. From one moment to the next, they no longer had any income through Uber, Monique Verdier, deputy chair of the AP, said of the drivers who initiated the complaint. A computer should not make decisions on its own that have major consequences for you. Yes. Good luck. Good luck.

  32. The AP has previously fined Uber three times, including once in 2018 for €600,000 or $701,000, and again in 2023 for €10 million or $11.6 million. Uber's previous record high fine came in 2024 when the AP issued a €290 million, or around $339 million, penalty for improperly transferring personal data of European drivers to the U.S.

  33. those things are starting to add up. Especially for Uber because, last I checked, they're still in the red. Yeah, I think they had one profitable year. One profitable quarter, Brian. It was a quarter. A quarter. Remember? And it was all due to accounting shenanigans.

  34. Accounting shenanigans. We love the shenanigans. All right. They have shenanigans before and they will shenanigan. Oh, good shirt. TikTok and ByteDance have reached an agreement with the Department of Justice to settle a lawsuit that claims the app broke children's privacy laws.

  35. The settlement is one of the largest recoveries ever obtained for a case related to the Children's Online Privacy Protection Act, the DOJ said in a statement. This settlement dates back to a 2024 lawsuit bought by then-President Joe Biden's Justice Department. DOJ alleged that the company had violated the terms in an earlier FTC settlement related to its acquisition of Musical.ly.

  36. It further accused the app of violating COPA by allowing kids under 13 to create TikTok accounts and wrongfully collecting data about children who used it in kids mode. The company also frequently failed to comply with requests from parents to delete their children's data or even sets of visibility to zero.

  37. They just did nothing. So. Nothing. Nada. Another lawsuit. Yes. Well, Brian, I got the, I got the granddaddy of them all. This one just hot in off the presses. Meta has agreed to pay up to $16.68 billion. We got him this time!

  38. Billion dollars. That is a little more than coffee money right there. That is a fuckload of coffee. Yeah. It ain't the trillions we were looking for, but you know what? That'll hurt. That'll hurt. That will slow down. That will slow down Zuck's, his AI shit for about 27 minutes.

  39. I think we're going to start up on that one. Well, again, the thing to keep in mind about this particular case is there are about 20,000 other exactly similar cases coming down the pipe. So, this sets the precedent. They're going to get slapped left, right, and center. Yep. And this will overhaul youth protections on Facebook and Instagram, settling claims from 29 U.S. states and avoiding a closely watched federal trial in California.

  40. So, the company will introduce daily usage limits for teenage users, block access at night, and strengthen controls designed to keep children away from age-restricted content. States had accused Meta of deliberately creating addictive products, misleading families about safety, and collecting children's data without parental consent, including for training machine learning and generative AI systems.

  41. And, of course, Meta denies wrongdoing to the tune of $1.668 billion. We did nothing wrong. Here is almost $17 billion just because we did nothing wrong. The agreement also resolves separate Cambridge Analytica privacy lawsuits brought by California, Illinois, New Mexico, and Washington, D.C., which will receive $459.3 million, which just seems like, you know, a drop in the bucket after that, the big mama.

  42. Well, Meta still faces thousands of other cases, thousands of other cases alleging that social platforms contributed to a nationwide youth mental health crisis. I would just take out youth. I would just say a mental health crisis. Agreed. Similar litigation continues against Snap, YouTube, TikTok, and their parent companies.

  43. So, yes, this is good news. This is very good news for once. Great news. Knock your little fucking dick in the dirt, Zuckerberg. Ha! Well, one more lawsuit really quickly. A streamer has taken a stand against Twitch and Amazon using his content to train AI models.

  44. Aaron Pandesia, a streamer based in Connecticut, filed a class action lawsuit earlier this week as first reported by Courthouse News. The complaint accuses Twitch and Amazon of not obtaining licensing or permission before using his Twitch streams and videos as a data set necessary to fuel Amazon's AI products.

  45. This month, Twitch support posted on X that it added an option to opt out of having your channel content used to train generative AI content models. Shortly after, Twitch hosted an episode of its recurring patch note stream where Mike Minton, the company's chief product officer, said, and I love this, if it was opt-in, nobody would opt-in when asked by a viewer why the Twitch settings for AI training aren't opt-in but instead enabled by default.

  46. No shit because we don't want to do this. He said the quiet part out loud. He absolutely did. He did not get the memo from the head office. What a dumb shit. What a dumb shit. Yeah. Now, the latest class action lawsuit claims that Twitch and Amazon committed a breach of contract when the companies decided to use its streamers as a free training stock for separate commercial AI products.

  47. The complaint also accuses the two companies of benefiting from their streamers who lost money or property as a result of defendants on lawful, unfair, and fraudulent practices. And Amazon isn't the only company that's been hit with a lawsuit for allegedly using content creators for AI training. Earlier this year, three YouTubers filed a class action lawsuit against Apple accusing the company of scraping copyrighted content to train its AI models.

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  54. That's defined as total devastation from a cataclysmic termite infestation. Astro knows termites can devastate walls, floors, and bank accounts. Our termite control program is defined by two words, most and best, as in the most trusted and the best warned. Wherever you live in South Georgia, yeah, there are going to be termites, but you can avoid termageddon because Astro is just a phone call away.

  55. We're the best pro Astro. Well, let's get to some shitty news, Brian. Okay. The EPA is considering a change to the 1970 Clean Air Act that would remove the 30-day public comment period for new, quote, minor sources of industrial pollution.

  56. I would like to say that there are no such thing as, quote, minor sources when you couple that with industrial pollution. Yes, the industrial implies at scale. Uh-huh. It sure does. The proposal could make it easier to build AI data centers and other facilities that fall below major emissions thresholds while reducing opportunities, and here's the fun part, for communities to review or challenge projects before construction begins.

  57. There it is, right there in the fine print. Critics say the timing is significant as data centers are expanding rapidly and drawing concern over electricity use, water consumption, air pollution, and local environmental impacts. Supporters frame the change as streamlining permitting.

  58. Fuck you. Opponents argue it would prioritize faster development and less public scrutiny over transparency and accountability. Yes, which is what you fucking want. I'm going to tell you, Brian, this is going to come down to guerrilla tactics and people are going to start just basically going out and ripping these places up at night.

  59. I'm telling you. We've got to flock these things. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, Jesus Christ. Did you hear about the new flock case where the cop basically 3D printed on his own time some fake flock cameras and put them up around town and they had a sting operation to see who would come out and knock it down?

  60. Don't we call that entrapment? Well, you know, that's... No, I guess not. It's a fine line right now. But they're charging him with a crime that is not commensurate with the actual damage that he did. They're saying, well, this was... It's like you actually cut down a flock camera so it's the value of the flock camera even though it was basically something the guy printed on his own time for free and said there was no value to it and they're calling it art.

  61. But the new 404 podcast talks about it and it's phenomenal. It is phenomenal. These guys are just getting... They're getting to get raked over the coals for this one. But yeah, it's very funny. But yes, anyway, let's flock this shit out of these data centers.

  62. Agreed. Although the U.S. has relaxed its restrictions on NVIDIA AI chip exports to China, illegal exports apparently are still taking place. Prosecutors in Taiwan just indicted nine individuals including NVIDIA and Super Micro employees for illegally bringing AI servers into China.

  63. the defendants colluded with one another at various levels for enormous profit and illegally exporting high-end servers, increasing corporate compliance costs, and severely damaging our nation's international image, prosecutors from the northern city of Keilung said in a statement. They did this, the team added, despite being fully aware of NVIDIA and Super Micro's rigorous export control procedures.

  64. Although NVIDIA is an American company, most of its chips are manufactured by the Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company, the world's largest chip maker by far. The latest Blackwell AI chips are manufactured in Phoenix, Arizona, but are still shipped to Taiwan for advanced packaging prior to final assembly.

  65. Taiwan is ultra-stricken about exports of newer technology, lest it displeases U.S. regulators. Well, what U.S. regulators? What U.S. regulators? And in particular, the Trump administration. Despite Taiwan's clampdown, bad actors have found ways to get such chips into China.

  66. In one instance, $1 billion worth of server racks may have been shipped through Southeast Asian countries like Thailand or Malaysia to circumvent U.S. export controls. In another case, the U.S. charged three people allegedly exporting $3.5 billion worth of AI servers to China, again, by rooting them through third-party countries.

  67. See, all they had to do was buy the requisite amount of Trump coin. I'm sure that there's a lookup chart that they can find at Trump.com to find out how much they have to pay. Exactly. Yeah. You know, it's very simple. You know, if Sam Bankman Fried's parents would get a copy of that, he'd be out of jail by now.

  68. That's true. They just, you know, they're just waiting. Well, some more China news here. China is recalling nearly 3 million Tesla Model 3 and Model Y vehicles over concerns that emergency door releases are difficult to identify, especially after a crash or low-voltage failure.

  69. Regulators, Chinese regulators. That's where all of our regulators have gone. Brian, they've moved to China. That's right. Regulators say the handles can delay occupants escaping or rescuers getting in. Now, we've covered this many times. There's a giant list of people who have died because of these stupid fucking doors.

  70. But China is the one that's making the move. So Tesla must add warning labels and deploy an over-the-air update designed to lower windows after an accident. China is also recalling nearly 400,000 Xiaomi SU-7 electric vehicles for similar risks. So it's not just Tesla.

  71. They're doing themselves too. New Chinese rules taking effect next year will require mechanically operable door handles from both sides likely forcing design changes. The U.S. is considering comparable standards, but final requirements may not arrive before 2030. So, it just reminds me of the final, the recall scene in Fight Club.

  72. You know, where he's telling the woman on the plane the math about doing a recall. It's just like that. It's just like that. The money. If you haven't seen Fight Club again recently, go watch it. It is awesome and it has legs. It certainly does. Well, LinkedIn recently began testing a dedicated reporting tool for AI slop.

  73. After only a few weeks, the company says it's already improving the quality of the posts people see in their feeds. How can you fucking tell? Sorry. Yeah, it's horrible. LinkedIn sucks. It sucks so bad. So bad.

  74. Just reading people blowing their own smoke up their own asses constantly. Who cares if it's AI or not? Anyways, the seems like AI slop button has been used more than a million times since its launch, probably because every single post seems like it's AI slop. LinkedIn's chief product officer, Harry Shrevenson, shared an update.

  75. Members are now experiencing 40% less views on what we classify as AI slop from just a few weeks ago, he wrote. The company has been far, has so far been cagey in sharing exactly how it's determining what is AI slop and what it isn't. But they say they use many signals to determine the reach of a post and that has built safeguards to help prevent individual feedback from being used to unfairly target other members.

  76. The ironic thing about this, of course, is LinkedIn actually pushed AI slop for quite a long time, including a button that said, would you like to use AI to help make your post better? I know. Better was in quotes. Yes.

  77. Or, sorry, enhance your post and messages. But they removed the feature when they rolled out the AI slop reporting tool, which makes sense. I mean, LinkedIn, I go there every now and again just to post some stuff to see if anybody bites on it. You know, I've got a couple people that I used to work with that have gotten in touch recently, which is really nice.

  78. It was really nice to catch up with them. And everybody, of course, has the available for work thing on there. Because everybody's available for work. Everybody's fucking available for work. So I was like, ah, God. But yeah, the long form posts that, you know, the douche nozzles that think that they're still businessmen posts, it's just out of control.

  79. It's out of control. It's such a wasteland. Yeah, you wonder why you're available for work when you post that shit. Come on. Here's another knock in the nuts. Austin park goers say the Humalong Lady Bird Lake isn't cicadas. It's a temporary charging site serving Waymo's electric vehicles.

  80. the facility on the former Austin American Statesman property beside a walking trail uses natural gas fired L-charged generators rather than a connection to the electric grid. God. Videos and complaints describe the equipment as loud enough to disrupt the park, raising questions about the impact of quiet electric transportation.

  81. Uber, which offers Waymo rides in Austin, says the generators are a temporary solution, while a permanent grid-connected charging site is being built. The company says custom sound barriers have been installed around each unit, and a city inspector measured the generator noise at 61 decibels in April, below the property's 70 decibel limit.

  82. Whether the barriers satisfy trail users remains unclear, but the dispute highlights a broader infrastructure challenge. Rapidly expanding robotaxi fleets still need reliable charging power, but it does blow a hole in the electric vehicles will save the world plan. Brian, doesn't it? We're using gas generators to charge the electric vehicles.

  83. Electric cars. Yeah. What the flying fuck? What the actual... Oh, fuck. I hate this world. I hate this timeline. I know. It's so fucking bad. I hate this timeline. Oh, God. I mean, sometimes people are like, why the fuck are you so angry all the time?

  84. And I'm just like, look, read something. I know. I know. Or just listen to our show and send it to your friends. It's ridiculous. It is absolutely ridiculous. Here's a little bit of good news. I don't know if you do use sign in with Apple on anything.

  85. I do. I do. I started to use it because it's fairly convenient. Well, Apple has reversed a planned change to its iCloud Plus Hide My Email service following user pushback. The company had announced two months ago that existing and new Hide My Email addresses would move to a different domain, but it now says that transition will not happen.

  86. Hide My Email lets users create unique randomly generated addresses that forward messages to their real inbox, helping reduce spam and protect privacy when signing up for websites and services. Apple has not provided additional details about why it abandoned the domain change, but the reversal means its users can continue using their current Hide My Email addresses without migration concerns.

  87. And this has to do with like .icloud.com and .appleid.com it was a switch that would have been really disruptive to probably everybody who's ever used it and set one up because, you know, every website's going to have to go back and change those email addresses that you're logging in with and there's going to have to be a migration period and it's just like, why, dude, why?

  88. Why are you doing that, Apple? You know? I don't know. I've been using the service whenever I sign up for anything new these days because I just figure, why not? It makes a lot of sense, but in terms of like reducing spam and all that sort of stuff, what I've really discovered though is if you've had the same email address for over 30 years, nothing makes any difference.

  89. I get so much spam. Yeah. No, it's pretty bad. It's pretty bad. But, you know, most of my shit's in Gmail now and they do a pretty good job, I gotta say. So, I just, I gave up and just, I live by the Gmail.

  90. Yeah. Which I talked about like two episodes ago and now I have to go to a tab in my browser to check my email. I don't have it set through Apple Mail or any shit like that. So nice. So nice. People say, hey, did you see my email? I go, no.

  91. No. I didn't. I'm gonna check it later today when I'm sitting at my computer and I can open a tab. It is glorious. It's glorious. I'm 55 years old and nobody fucking cares about anything that I have to say anymore. So, I don't get email besides spam. So, it's like, yeah, and just bullshit.

  92. So, it's great. It's great. And we weren't getting the email from the few people that do care what you have to say because our website email wasn't working. The few people I want to fucking hear from, we weren't even getting it. God damn it. We fixed that now. Anyways, let's talk about what inspired our wonderful high production intro this week.

  93. The latest episode of Star Trek Strange New Worlds, the Muppet episode. I'm already annoyed that we're basically just doing concept of the week episodes, which, again, totally fine. Star Trek has always done them. Star Trek always did them with 26 episode seasons, not 8 to 10 episode seasons, with over half of them being gimmicks.

  94. And this one in particular. Real quick, I have a question real quick. You know, you talk about the through lines. Like, I remember the through lines on DS9 and Next Gen and Voyager and all those. Those were fantastic full through lines with the individual episodes. Original series.

  95. Was there a through line in the original series? No. I thought they were just all one-offs. No. Weren't they? They were pretty much all one-offs. There were like two or three parters or things like that, but they were pretty much all one-offs. Pretty much all one-offs. Okay. I'm not even talking about through lines. I'm just talking about exploring strange new worlds.

  96. Like, that's true. Get away from these concept episodes where you're doing noir and then you're doing a musical and then you're doing a... Anyways, the Muppet episode, I have to admit, I, the first 10 to 15 minutes, I was all over it.

  97. I was like, okay, this is actually really, really funny. Particularly, Carol Kane's Muppet. I'm dying. Oh, she was great. She was great. Just dying. But the joke wore so thin so fast. Yeah. For me, anyways. I just, I figured out what it was.

  98. I figured out what the conceit was. You know? Well, then of course, yeah, I mean, spoiler alert, everybody. It was a fucking dream. Yeah. So, once you figure that out, then it's, and it was telegraphed pretty fucking hard. You know, it wasn't really subtle about what they were doing. Yeah.

  99. But, there were parts that were funny, but, yeah, it just, it wore so thin so fast. It was absolutely my least favorite episode of Star Trek Strange New Worlds. Absolutely. And, you know, Star Trek has had a lot of stinkers. A lot of stinkers.

  100. Spock's brain from the original series. Anything with Wesley Crusher. Lots of stinker episodes. But, this was pretty bad. I don't know. I think that, actually, my least favorite was the one before this one. The noir episode. Yeah. I could not stand that one.

  101. It was fine. Whatever. I just want a normal goddamn episode. Explore world. Yeah. Well, we'll see what happens. We'll see what happens. There's a new episode in about, you know, 25 minutes. So, we'll get on that. And, last night, I watched the latest episode of Ted Lasso, which, even though they say it comes out on Wednesday, it's actually 9 p.m.

  102. on Tuesdays when it comes out. Oh. I got to watch the, I watched it. I watched the latest episode. I did see on our Discord that you are grudgingly admitting that you're enjoying this season. God damn it. I loved, I loved last night's episode. Okay. I'm loving this.

  103. Like, it's not, of course, it's not going to catch the lightning in a bottle that season one did because of the timing, pandemic, and the newness of it, all of that. Nothing is ever going to be as good as the first season of Ted Lasso was. But this is fun. I'm really enjoying it. Yeah, it is fun.

  104. It's, you know, there's not much great going on in the world right now, so the timing just might be right. Yeah. I did see that Black Mirror season 8 is now in production, so, you know, you got to have your counterpoint, but I am, I am actually, I, it took me a while to get through episode one.

  105. I'm just like, well, I know he's going to go, so just fucking say yes, hurry up. And then once it started to get moving, I was fine with it. I'm enjoying it. So, yeah, it's no severance. It's no severance. God. This episode is brought to you by Storyblocks.

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  111. When the pests grow, go Astro. And Silo, for me right now, is really dragon. So dragon. I know where they're going, but I also know that this is dragon right now, and I know that a lot of other people are feeling the same way because I really haven't seen Hugh Howie, who wrote Silo, the original author that wrote all the books on social media much talking about the show other than saying he loves it.

  112. He is out doing full-on damage control. He is posting everywhere, left, right, and said, just wait, just wait, the payoff is coming. Oh, wait for the last two episodes. So, yeah, everybody is kind of, I think everybody is feeling the same way, like, okay, come on, let's go.

  113. I'm like, can we get to season four already? Because this is fucking boring. Yeah. You know. Reacher is back for season four and I'm absolutely loving it. It's halfway through. A new episode out today, actually, because today is Wednesday when we record this. I am so looking forward to it. This guy, Alan Richardson, is, this is his moment.

  114. Like, this is his moment. He's fucking everywhere. And, you know, he did the smartest thing he could do. He's like Roy Kent. He's here. He's there. He's everywhere. And, and he did the smartest thing ever. Like, right before the show came out, he went on a bunch of podcasts and he bashed the shit out of Trump.

  115. And everybody loves him for it. So, it's awesome. It's awesome. And, and this, it's such a great show. It's just a great show. The Westies finished up their first season run on MGM Plus. Thoroughly enjoyed it. Highly recommend it. If you have MGM Plus, which, what the fuck does MGM Plus?

  116. MGM Plus is where the vampire list had its run at the beginning before it got transferred to Netflix. Right. So, I imagine the Westies will be on Netflix in about two years. So, check it out. But, it's a great show.

  117. Go to Sweden and grab it. The whole, the whole eight episodes are out and they're fun. I wouldn't say they're fun. It's about gangs and Irish gangs and murder and shit in New York. But for me, that's my happy place. That's fun. Yeah. It is fun. It is fun. The Simpsons Yellow Mirror drops today.

  118. This is an exclusive episode on Disney Plus and it looks fun. I think I'm going to have to watch that today before I watch Ted Lassen. or maybe after. I have not watched an original episode of The Simpsons in at least two decades. Exactly.

  119. So, I'm just like, let's go, let's go. But it looks fun. So, I'll check it out. You know, it likes me some of that. But the most important thing that happened this week in the media is the Pit Season 3 trailer dropped. Oh. It's a great show. It's a great show. Our timeline is so fucked up right now.

  120. Can we just fast forward? Get our stuff up there. Pretty please? Because I can't wait for this. It is the saddest show on TV, but I love it so much. It's so good. I'm so glad you got me into that. It's so good. And I'm so glad I got to binge. I'm so glad I got to binge like the first two and, or it was like one and a quarter, one and three quarter seasons.

  121. I binged it all and then I got to the last three that I had to wait week by week and I'm like, I don't like it week by week. I want my sadness in one go. I like to spread my sadness like butter over fine bread. Okay. Okay. Well, we pay an awful lot of money for Amazon Prime and I don't feel like I get my money's worth really out of it except for the shipping.

  122. You know, Prime video, fine. There's a couple of things on there that I actually watch every now and then, but of course, you're still getting ads now anyways unless you want to pay even more. Which I do. $5. $5. And, and I went and I popped on a show yesterday like Miami Kings about these drug lords in Miami.

  123. Fucking commercial. I'm like, still get a commercial. Yeah. Yeah. They don't care. But one of the perks that I was not aware of that you get automatically with, with Amazon Prime is a program called Amazon's First Reads, which gets you early access to editor's picks and each month you get to choose one Kindle book for free with your Prime membership, which is kind of cool.

  124. Like, I mean, I've only been doing it for two months now, so there hasn't been a lot of stuff I'm particularly interested in, but they usually give you a selection of six to ten books, all kinds of different genres. So, it's a free download. Can't hurt. Why not?

  125. Grab a free book every week if you're already a Prime member. Yeah, save it for a rainy day. Exactly. If you didn't know about it. And I'm sure those authors get some kind of stipend, so, you know, why not? Why not? So, I did, I downloaded one of them and just out of curiosity, I did try to start to read it, unfortunately.

  126. Didn't really care much for it. This one's called I've Got a New Complaint, Essays on Aging Disgracefully and Other Small Disasters by Lori Notaro. I don't know who Lori Notaro is. I'm assuming she's some sort of comedian or writer of some sense. Well, obviously, she's a writer. She's got a book.

  127. You know, there you go. You know, the first, I read the first couple chapters, mildly amusing anecdotes, but I kind of want more than mildly amusing for a book. Like, if I were her friend and we were out at lunch and she told me some of these stories, okay.

  128. Ha ha ha. When I'm trying to read a book that's supposedly comedic, not good enough. So, kind of gave up on that one. Another book that I got halfway into before kind of abandoning, which is why I haven't really said anything about at the library recently, is I did pick up The Theory of Everything Else, A Voyage into the World of the Weird, a hilarious handbook of mind-boggling mysteries by Dan Schreiber.

  129. And if you recognize that name, he is one of the members of the No Such Thing as a Fish podcast, one of my favorite podcasts. He does tend to always talk about triptychs and weird things and whatnot and have the crazy outlandish theories on the podcast, which they make fun of him for.

  130. And this book is all of that stuff from him. And I got to say, just like the Muppet episode of Star Trek Strange New Worlds, the first couple stories were fine. And then you start going, I can't read any more of this. I'm done. I am over this.

  131. That was enough. Thank you very much. So, kind of abandoned that book. Picked up another book, and this one is sticking. I'm almost all the way done, so I'll talk about it again next week when I finish it. It's Welcome to Your Life, Love, Death, and Tears for Fears, An Iconic Musician's Journey Through Grief, Addiction, and Recovery by Roland Orzabal.

  132. One of the members of Tears for Fears, one of the two. And it's a great read so far. I'm really enjoying it, but I will talk about it next time when I finish it. All right. I finished Picks and Shovels, a Martin Hench novel by Cory Doctorow. This is a prequel to the other two Marty Hench novels.

  133. It was good. It took me a while to get through it because it did kind of drag in the middle. And Cory, Cory, Cory, Cory, Cory, I know that you now have a subscription to the Food Network because every time somebody in your novels cooks, you feel the need to tell us in detail how they cook the food.

  134. I know how to baste my steaks with rosemary and butter. I do not need it in my cybercrime, you know, novel. Please, stick to your fucking lane. Every fucking time drove me fucking nuts. But, and it was read by Will fucking Wheaton because I listened to the audio book.

  135. It was a good book, though. It was a nice prequel to the Marty Hench novels, which I really liked the first Marty Hench novel. The second one, not so much because they kind of left it on a cliffhanger waiting for part three. But then he went and wrote a fucking prequel before part three, which kind of annoyed me. But anyway, I do, I got to say from, you know, Cory's kind of redeeming himself with his fiction work with these novels.

  136. So I like them better than his young adult stuff, which has been kind of, you know, well, I'm not a young adult anymore, so it doesn't really matter. Exactly. Worth a read. Worth a read if you're, if you've read the other, at least the first Martin Hench novel. Read the first one and then this is a good prequel. Then I got into This Is How You Lose the Time War by Amal El-Motar.

  137. Have you heard of this book? I have not. It's a novella. It got the Hugo Award winner for Best Novella and Nebula and Locus Awards for winners for Best Novella for a good reason. God damn. Yeah, you put this on your list, Brian. I will be putting this on my Libby borrowing list because I'm not going to pay $13.99 for a digital version of a novella.

  138. No, you don't have to do that. No. This is one of my last credits that I got from Audible before I canceled. It was like a four and a half hour, yeah, a four and a half hour listen. Most books are usually in the eight to 14. I've got a 36 hour book on there somewhere. I mean, fucking Christ.

  139. But no, dude, yeah, get this on Libby. It's awesome. I mean, this is what sci-fi should be. And, you know, I don't know why I've been, I've been getting a lot of time travel books recommended to me lately. So, this is just another one that came through the pipeline and out of the, you know, the multiple time travel books that I've read recently, this is the best.

  140. This is absolutely the best. As far as just, as far as pure writing goes, you will appreciate this. this is one of the most well-written books I've read in a long fucking time. Great. All right. I will put it in my Libby queue. Welcome to the dark side with Dave with the podcaster who never sleeps, Dave Bittner.

  141. Dave covers the daily cybersecurity beat on the cyber wire, bust scams with Joe Kerrigan on hacking humans, untangles privacy headaches with Ben Yellen on caveat, digs into industrial security on control loop and still shows up to stir trouble on only malware in the building. Hi, Dave. Hello.

  142. I found the old intro. It was, it was sitting under a rock. Very nice. Very nice. My resume. Yes. Yes. Do you have any new shows? It's been a while since we've had any updates. Has anything been added to your resume? No. No.

  143. Anything removed? There's a downturn in the economy. I get it. I get it. Well, since you asked, I'm not doing control loop anymore. Oh, that'll save us, over time, that'll save us about, you know, 10 minutes. Dave has now added the available for work circle on his LinkedIn page.

  144. On his LinkedIn, yes. Yeah. If there's anybody who wants to underwrite an industrial control systems podcast, I have a, I'm on it. I got a spare fist. He hanging out? It's a, it's a niche of a niche, but it's, it's open in my schedule right now.

  145. So I want to, I want to bring this episode in with some of your inspiration for me, Dave, with all of the, the, the work that you did on your keyboard. And I, I, I've been excited to get into electronics now. So I, I went and found a course called learn sorts, basically learn circuits course on YouTube.

  146. It's a 10 year old course that basically just is the basics of electricity and circuits and resistors, capacitors, volts, ohms, all that shit. Great little course. I'm loving it. And I ordered my first Arduino starter kit, the R4, which gets here this week. Okay.

  147. The funny thing is, is I think Brian, that entire time I was living in Chicago this last time, I had that Arduino starter kit in my closet that we would joke about that I was going to get to every day. Yes. And I never did. So, and it didn't make the move.

  148. I'm getting to it this time. I'm getting to it this time. I have, I have stumbled upon maker top or a maker gram. my Instagram feed is all people making stuff. Period. Well, that's nice. That's all it is. And it is so cool. It reminds me of the early web.

  149. You know, everybody's just making stuff and everybody's giving away the source code. They're giving away the blueprints for all the 3D printing files, for everything they're making, the code to run it, all the chips, the diagrams, those ESP32 chips or whatever. Those things can do a million things, especially hacking tools.

  150. I've got so many hacking tools I want to build now. It's crazy. I'm very excited about this. This is the first time I've been excited about tech in a long time. Well, good for you, going retro. I looked at this Learn Circuits course and I think I'm going to make my way through it as well because I feel as though my knowledge and understanding is very patchy.

  151. You know, like, I know a lot of what, I know the basics of what a lot of things do, but actually, if you ask me to build a circuit that does something, I could, you know, I could make a light blink on and off, but like, build an amplifier, I'd be like, I don't know.

  152. Yeah. But, so, yeah, I think that'd be fun. I'm going to go through this as well. I saw the Arduino kit. I'm tempted. I'll let you know how it goes. You're in a shorter project right now. Well, I mean, I still have R2D2, so that's my, that's my, but the thing is, some of the, there could be some crossover here.

  153. Exactly. Some of the modifications to R2D2 involve Arduino kits, so. There you go. I don't know. We'll see. Give me an excuse to solder. Stop me before I solder again. Yeah, well, I mean, I got this kit because it doesn't require soldering at first, so that's good because I don't know how to solder.

  154. I need to find a basic soldering kit now and get that. But I tell you what, all I have to do is open my Instagram because there are a million kits that tell me, you know, oh, nobody wants these old clippy things on your solder kit. you got to get the little things that are magnetic and don't mess up your breadboards and all this stuff. It's like, I mean, I need to start selling microphones and video equipment and all this crap that I have here so I can go buy a 3D printer and all this other crap now.

  155. Oh, God, that's why you asked me what 3D printer I had this week, didn't you? No, no, Kevin Rose was talking about his 3D printer and I thought you guys had the same one. Oh, no, he has a couple extra zeros in his bank account than I have so I'm assuming he has a much nicer 3D printer than I do.

  156. His was like $600. Oh, okay. Yeah, he didn't get the super duper one which surprised me because, you know, he burns money by just thinking about it. Yeah. Soldering is actually great fun, I think, because there's both melting and smoke involved.

  157. but I will say that I feel as though soldering isn't as easy as it was when I was a teenager and I think that's mostly because they've changed the formulations of the solder to make it less toxic and where's the fun in that? So, If you can't get cancer doing it, who gives a shit?

  158. Right, or exposure to lead and all that good stuff so I think it's a little more challenging to make the solder flow as easily as it used to but it's, I think, you will enjoy yourself. I like, give me an opportunity to solder something and to me, that's a good time.

  159. I used to assist our friend of the show, MXV, because he had, you know, 20 some odd pinball machines in his basement and he would always be working on something so I would go down there and like, you know, he'd kind of show me how it kind of worked and stuff like that so I really, like, missed out because, I mean, he had all these boards everywhere and he'd work on the boards and now I kind of, after taking this circuits course, I kind of have more of a mental map on how pinball machines even work.

  160. Right. I think once you get the basics on how these things work, it's just like, oh, oh, I get, now I can see, I think you're right. The fucking matrix opens up, it's like, now I know how everything kind of works. It's just all about how you move electricity around. Yeah. It really is.

  161. It's so cool. It really is. It's so cool. It really is. So, yeah, you know, you're, you're, you're going to end up with a Radio Shack 150 in one kit. Just trust me on this. Oh, absolutely. It's coming. It's coming. Yeah. My Jeep is broken right now so, this, the Arduino was part of a gift certificate that I got for my birthday so I'm kind of tapped out on shit right now until I, because I'm trapped at home during the heat wave and my car's broken so, until the car's fixed then there's no more kits coming so go buy

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  169. We're the best crow go Astro. Well Dave I know how much you enjoy soldering but I did see one of your Facebook posts this week and I know that you were in a situation you did not enjoy and I just want to briefly address at the TLDR on this as you were at an event I'm not going to go into the details it was a somber one someone was speaking and then of course somebody's phone starts springing and you were like what the hell man

  170. and I kind of I have no fault I 100% agree with your entire rant and it was a good one I personally have not had the sound on on my phone in probably 20 years I don't know who does who are you people that leave your sound on on your phone I think I do so you're the one I don't leave the house so I don't go anywhere fair enough yeah and so it was

  171. a memorial service and the phone went off with some heavy metal rock and roll in the middle of a eulogy hopefully not my way to hell no yeah oh but I didn't want to rant without presenting a potential solution so what I wonder is could the phone manufacturers could the people who are responsible for bluetooth come up with a bluetooth beacon

  172. that indicates this is a quiet place Dave there's literally just a switch right there I understand that but like how fucking hard is this well we've demonstrated over the past decade evidently and I think it's a numbers game right yeah because if it's one out of a hundred people who forget and I don't think people are I don't think most people are doing this maliciously I think they in

  173. good faith forget but if we had a system where when you you could set your phone so when you went into a place that had been tagged as being a quiet place either your phone pops up an alert and says hey you're in a quiet place shall we silence everything you could say yes you could also set your phone right right nobody else has seen that movie or it could just happen automatically you could set your phone to have it happen automatically this seems to me like something that's very achievable

  174. and I would love to see someone implement you know why it has not been done Dave there is zero money in it but I also have I have another gotcha in the law of unintended consequences I want to break into your house and make sure you can't call the cops so I bring one of these bluetooth this is a quiet place beacons so now your alarm system doesn't make any noise or like when the alarm company calls your phone doesn't make any noise or something there would be

  175. something I'm sure that could be used for nefarious purposes by making sure that somebody's phone stays quiet when it's not supposed to you see how quickly jason finds the way to use it for pure evil it's my job have you seen the shirt that I'm wearing come on yeah my it's my understanding that in Europe at least for a while it was legal to have jammers in movie theaters and theaters it was yeah so

  176. yeah hey and I know how to make those now thanks to maker cram right right just follow just have one in your back pocket all the time you can actually it's fairly straightforward it'll cost you $32 in parts well jason you just had your birthday my my kid my kid had his 10th birthday this last weekend first off I can't believe it's been 10 years but it has been but I wanted to I know I

  177. wanted to talk about some of the stuff that he got some of which for himself he got some cash so flush with cash cash he started collecting I guess what I'm going to call milk and cookie table books because it's not a coffee table for him oh I see where you're going yeah okay yes he got some like high-end stuff here I've got some links in the show notes he's really into Kirby that's a Nintendo whole game like universe thing plays those games all the time he bought the Kirby art and style collection by

  178. viz media which is just what it says on the tin it's it's all the different art and fonts that they use and styles and different drawings for the many many many many years of Kirby games which like I'm like you're 10 I was like this kid has very advanced tastes I know I know well and then he also got the Star Wars the lightsaber collection by Daniel Wallace which is this amazing coffee table book with these beautiful photographs of

  179. every single lightsaber seen in the Star Wars universe it's amazing nice and yet he remains evil so he also got Star Wars the secrets of the Sith by Mark Sumer which is a quite involved read about all the horrible things that the bad guys in Star Wars does and he loves it how to guide pretty much yeah how to take over the universe so he's gonna follow your following your goth footsteps but taking it to the next level yes taking it to the

  180. next level very dark mall you can send him to me when he's ready right I'll teach him I'll teach him the ways yeah but my favorite present that he actually got and I didn't I hadn't realized how big this was when he initially asked for it and thanks a lot to his aunt for buying it for him the X-shot insanity motorized rage fire Gatling gun with tripod foam gun for maximum firepower I had to set this up for him and oh my god it is so much fun I picked that thing

  181. up say hello to my little friend and I just blasted the shit out of everything yeah I where the hell were these things when I was a kid well yes that's true we had cap guns and you know the single suction cup things but I I grew up in North Carolina we had real guns right so this reminded me of the Nerf guns we had in

  182. my first office back in the 90s when I when we had our pixel workshop office I put a photo of that in the show notes I found yeah it's for it's from like 1995 the Baltimore Sun did a little you know story on us this new you know young kids opening a new shop to compete with Hollywood you know that sort of thing and that was the photo they took so that was the four founding members of that venture but yeah we had lots of Nerf guns and we

  183. would chase each other around and have fun and of course eventually those went to my kids when we closed that office but what I found was that the little Nerf bullets which are probably three inches long and I don't know half an inch thick little tiny suction cups on the front they were the perfect size to clog up the drain on my washing machine yeah I could see that and they would just get in there they'd be in the kids pockets they'd be in their laundry baskets and so every

  184. once a month or so the washing machine would blip error 82 and I'd know exactly what it was and I knew how to you know like time me click it go into the washing machine take it apart sure enough there'd be a Nerf bullet or two clogging up or blocking the impeller that would there's the pump that would drain the washing machine so you're like field stripping an AR-15 yeah it's yeah right it's yeah exactly it's one of the nice things

  185. about almost being an empty nester is that the Nerf bullets are much fewer and farther between but I am buried in them yeah yeah it is fun like I mean no question it is fun I mean yeah it's this thing is insane like the next thing we're going to do when he gets home from his camp today is we're going to set up a whole bunch of his Lego figures and we're just going to see how many we can mow down with this thing nice yeah well when he gets to be a teenager then

  186. you can move into airsoft as well which is just as fun yeah a little more evil but just as fun yeah I found a fun little website that just basically does one thing it tracks how much of hacker news is AI just a stupid little website that kind of reminds me of how the web used to be the little bits of delight that the web used to be I think it's currently running around 15% of stories on hacker news is AI but it also has a clock

  187. that counts down how long has it been since a hacker news story mentioned AI oh that's great 19 minutes yeah yeah yeah so kind of a little thing of where we are today I'm pretty sure in the past we've talked about the game full throttle you guys remember full throttle you ever played full throttle Jason not ringing a bell oh good game there's Lucas Arts what was neat about full throttle is that was it was completely standalone it wasn't based on any

  188. other pre-existing IP or anything like that Mark Hamill did a bunch of the voices for it but it's was great fun they remastered it which means they up-res'd everything and made it 16 by 9 and there's a YouTube video of the full gameplay so if you ever played full throttle it's a fun nostalgia trip there were a lot of things in this game I just forgot about but it was really fun and

  189. funny so if you ever played full throttle check it out I think you'll enjoy the walk yeah I just looked at it no recognition whatsoever yeah well I'd say watch played it watch the opening of it the first there's like a five-minute opening that's just a movie and it's cinematic and iconic and really just sucks you in to the game so I highly recommend it and then of course

  190. last but not least we lost Dolly Parton and and Tim Curry what yeah sorry oh sorry yeah Tim Curry died today oh shit well that guy is Tim Curry dead's website is going to be out of the job for a while oh man oh damn he did pass away damn thanks Dave but there's no point in going on living oh man so of

  191. course from my interests both who had wonderful relationships with the Muppets and so I included a link to a fun video Dolly Parton actually had her own let's call it a variety show and Miss Piggy was a guest star on the show at one point the Muppets were and Miss Piggy had her own tour bus where she was trying to fashion herself after Dolly and Dolly was giving her advice on how Miss Piggy

  192. could be more country it's very cute and so have a look and enjoy both Dolly Parton who by all accounts was a delightful person and and the wonderful Miss Piggy our favorite drag queen yes and I mean it's hard to find anybody that does not does not you can't find anybody that has a bad thing to say about Dolly Parton really no you know I saw a lot of hey God wrong 80 year old right right right I

  193. saw someone say I asked for Donnie not Dolly yeah yeah but Tim's 82 that's so you know these things do come in threes so well hey hey well I got here's hoping so here's here's another one that broke today let me see if the name means anything to either of you JP Morgan like the financial institution no hmm

  194. gong show she was on the gong show no no okay yeah I just remember the guy with a paper bag over his head from the gong show yeah yeah that's about it yeah so she was someone who made the rounds back in the 70s on game shows she was an actress sort of I think one of those the leading edge of people who are kind of famous for being famous right but she died today but I don't know that I'll count her in the rule of threes because no not big enough too niche yeah

  195. yeah yeah and we're we're we're holding that spot yeah we got a slot we got a slot we're here we're holding that slot for you we're saving a seat yeah it's like a reserve parking when the music stops right yeah Mitch already took off we do we don't fuck Mitch he's gone so we're saving it for Donnie oh man that that bums me about that all right that really yeah sorry I didn't uh sorry to be the bearer of bad news but uh I figured it had been a few hours since I saw it that it

  196. would have reached you guys by now I've been I've been busy today but I think tonight uh maybe we'll watch a Muppet Treasure Island with the kid and then I'll do a little Rocky Horror Picture show there you go well I will watch my favorite movie uh the Hunt for Red October oh yes business will get out of control and we'll get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through because you got to have the soundboard with a ready to go and now I gotta put a Tim Curry clip in there because I wish I had one of those my favorite quote from that movie is we must

  197. give this American a wide berth yep yep I don't know if you didn't hear this one last time uh Dave this was a great Jurassic Park Easter egg I would like to have seen Montana so this is when Sam Neill dies in in Hunt for Red October and the opening scene in Jurassic Park is Sam Neill in Montana Montana which I just found out sadly was California because I followed a new Instagram account that is a guy that goes to all of the filming locations for all the great movies in the

  198. world he's standing he's standing there in the same spot and he's like yeah this is California oh well yeah little movie magic yeah yeah all right guys well all right thank you very much and I'll see you next time all right see you next time and I'll have uh have some news about the Arduino kit I'm looking forward to it yes I look forward to that yeah it gets here it gets here in two days woohoo now let's talk about the people who keep this show on the air over at patreon we've got nobody new so you're not helping us keep on the air so that that that

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